jillybean Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=saqxxhajxxxxdxxck]133|100|Scoring: IMP(P) 1N (P) 2♦3♥:3♠4♥:?[/hv] Hi,Do you take another shot at this by cueing the ♣K and please explain why/why not?. tyiajb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I would change partner, this one doesn't respect my cuebid. Since it's such a noob, I'd just pass since he probably won't even be able to count his trumps to 13... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=saqxxhajxxxxdxxck]133|100|Scoring: IMP(P) 1N (P) 2♦3♥:3♠4♥:?[/hv] Hi,Do you take another shot at this by cueing the ♣K and please explain why/why not?. tyiajb Pass I give up. 1nt=2d3h=3s4h=? 1) partner super accepted with 3H, yes?2) But partner cannot cuebid an Ace over 3s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 If Aces-first cuebidding is used, with no serious 3NT, Opener must have something like ♠KJx ♥KQxx ♦KQJx ♣ Qx. So, I'd pass. If Italian Cuebidding, even without Serious 3NT, partner is an idiot. So, we must not be playing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I would change partner, this one doesn't respect my cuebid. Since it's such a noob, I'd just pass since he probably won't even be able to count his trumps to 13... Hahaha, agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 If partner is serious he doesn't wanna cue a king on our singleton, we are off 2 aces, at MP I would be tempted to bid 4♠ and hope to play in 4NT, now all I can do is pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 If we aren't off two aces partner has mis-sorted his hand.Pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 #1 what did 3H promise / show? One option would be 4 card support, a min. opener and a doubleton. #2 Does your partnership play serious 3NT in the given situation? If not, partner may believe that a cue shows willingness to cooperate. #3 If you want to go on, just bid 4NT, your side has 29HCP and you will have a diamond control. If you bid 5C, which answer makes will make you happy? 5D / 5H? Should you bid on? That depends on the degree of partnership agreements which are in place. If you play with a pick up partner he may have simply bid 4H to avoid any misunderstandings, i.e. slam is still possible. If you play with a regular partner, pass and afterwarts you should discuss the seq. with him, partners 4H bid should deny both Aces and the King of Diamond. Only possible if partner did upgrade a strong 14HCP hand (and those hand should contain Kings and Aces). With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Partner should not have either minor suit ace for this 4♥ bid. If I trust partner to have this bid then I pass. Else I bid RKC (if I can't trust him to respond accurately to cuebids, what's the point of cuebidding again?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 In general, I will cue-bid a singleton or a king... so I will cuebid a singleton king. On this hand, I of course, pass as they have two cashable ACES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Pass, and then as dummy walk away to the bathroom...en route glance at his hand and wonder what did he/she open on in the first place..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 He (pickup expert) did have a few cards... [hv=d=e&v=n&n=saq92haj8632d92ck&s=sj73hkq95dk6caqj9]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - - Pass 1NT Pass 2♦ Pass 3♥ Pass 3♠ Pass 4♥ Pass 5♣ Pass 5♦ Dbl 5♥ Pass 6♥ Pass Pass Pass -2 :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 If you don´t run into a first round ruff, 6 is icecold without any finesse.I guess they played a spade through and you decided to finesse? The bidding was fine till 3 Spade, the rest was silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 One possible correct auction for this hand would be: 1NT-2♦3♥-3♠4♣-5♣6♥-pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Silly maybe, we had no agreements and I thought my hand was worth another bid. ST S2 SK S3 DJ DK DA D2 DQ D9 D3 D6 D7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Silly maybe, we had no agreements and I thought my hand was worth another bid. ST S2 SK S3 DJ DK DA D2 DQ D9 D3 D6 D7 You can see that the best line is to win the ♠A, draw trumps, cash the ♣K and ♣AQ pitching two diamonds. You will lose a spade for sure, but you won't lose any other tricks. This gives up on making seven, but it guarantees the contract. This is also IMO the right play at MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 playing a low ♠ at trick 1 is suicidal. You have the top trumps and top ♣s, so after drawing trumps you can discard your ♦ losers in dummy and lose ♠K whoever has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 He (pickup expert) did have a few cards... [hv=d=e&v=n&n=saq92haj8632d92ck&s=sj73hkq95dk6caqj9]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - - Pass 1NT Pass 2♦ Pass 3♥ Pass 3♠ Pass 4♥ Pass 5♣ Pass 5♦ Dbl 5♥ Pass 6♥ Pass Pass Pass -2 :blink: Jilly, your pickup expert partner, wasn;t.... The bidding was horrible, and the play had to be even worse, as 6♥ is on ice, every intermediate should be able to count to 12.... 6H4C ----- 10 already..... Two spades, and walla... comes to 12. How tuff can that be? I guess we need a derogatory term for such experts, but I hate using BBO Expert as the term, but there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I like a direct 6♥ over a superaccept. There's no guarantee that they'll find the♦ lead even if we are off 2 cashers, unless we tell them about the weakness. I also think 7 is a real longshot. In my judgment, 6 will make 90% of the time, so why don't we just bid it? As a side note, why are transferring with a 6-4 hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Phil, Maybe due to the pickup nature of things, Beaner didn't want to muddy the waters....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Down two tricks. Wow! Very unfortunate that spades split 6-0, but great lead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I would change partner, this one doesn't respect my cuebid. Since it's such a noob, I'd just pass since he probably won't even be able to count his trumps to 13... Worse, he knew he couldn't count his tricks to 12 and would go down one by taking a finesse at trick one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I would change partner, this one doesn't respect my cuebid. Since it's such a noob, I'd just pass since he probably won't even be able to count his trumps to 13... Worse, he knew he couldn't count his tricks to 12 and would go down one by taking a finesse at trick one. Lol, at least I made the right decision with this partner :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted June 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Jilly, your pickup expert partner, wasn;t.... Yep disappointing to say the least. Oh well as you said, everyone has bad days. Ignoring this bidding, I am interested to know how to evaluate the stiff K? Without knowing more about my partners’ hand I cannot give it full value so how should I treat it? Likewise, how do you evaluate stiff Aces in a trump contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Jilly, your pickup expert partner, wasn;t.... Yep disappointing to say the least. Oh well as you said, everyone has bad days. Ignoring this bidding, I am interested to know how to evaluate the stiff K? Without knowing more about my partners’ hand I cannot give it full value so how should I treat it? Likewise, how do you evaluate stiff Aces in a trump contract? Jilly these questions are impossible to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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