firmit Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 In a strong club context - where 1♣ is (16)17+ all hands. You are playing 2♦ as multi1. pre-emptive 6c major ( upgraded to normal 6c opening 3./4. seat )2. 22-24hp balancedand3. 6+ card suit 16-20hp 4-5 LTC Example of no.3:2♦-2♠-3♠edit: KQ98xx AQ Kx AQx (correct no cards now :) ) 1st and 2nd are rather normal I think - but number 3.... Maybe in a 2/1 style it might be useful, but in a strong club? Maybe to "pre-empt" the opponents? The opponents might not be able to overcall this way, as they might have done when opening 1♣.... Comments on the 3rd option please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Some competitive auctions could be problematic if partners six card suit can be a major.... and 2D - 3S How do you get across the weaker of the strong hand with hearts? Not 3NT (balanced, or maybe 4NT), not 4 of a minor (strong hand with the minor)... I include the first two options you have, and have a strong one suiter in my multi 2D as well, but I restrict the strong hand to the MINORS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'm fine with the 3rd option, because I don't get dealt 14 cards very often :) Seriously, I am toying with adding a single strong option to our 2♦ opener, and its giving me a little bit of heartburn. Wagner (weak 2 in either) seems so much cleaner to me. Why is a 6 card major with a 20 count a problem in a strong club auction anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firmit Posted June 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Some competitive auctions could be problematic if partners six card suit can be a major.... and 2D - 3S How do you get across the weaker of the strong hand with hearts? Not 3NT (balanced, or maybe 4NT), not 4 of a minor (strong hand with the minor)... I include the first two options you have, and have a strong one suiter in my multi 2D as well, but I restrict the strong hand to the MINORS....3♣ opening is not used in my system other than a pre-emptive in clubs. Assigning 3♣ to show 4-5 LTC 16-20hp 36-40zp one-suiter frees up 2♦-2x-3♣ or even 2♦-3x-4♣. This is not only a work-around - but might be a useful tool when partner has got a 2NT response. I know a norwegian system called "Rød kløver"/Red club - use this. I don't think I will loose much by letting the "natural 3♣ pre-emptive" go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 In a strong club context - where 1♣ is (16)17+ all hands. You are playing 2♦ as multi1. pre-emptive 6c major ( upgraded to normal 6c opening 3./4. seat )2. 22-24hp balancedand3. 6+ card suit 16-20hp 4-5 LTC Example of no.3:2♦-2♠-3♠edit: KQ98xx AQ Kx AQx (correct no cards now :rolleyes: ) 1st and 2nd are rather normal I think - but number 3.... Maybe in a 2/1 style it might be useful, but in a strong club? Maybe to "pre-empt" the opponents? The opponents might not be able to overcall this way, as they might have done when opening 1♣.... Comments on the 3rd option please. In a strong club context, I would only put the weak options in the multi. It allows you to raise the preempt frequently, because you don't need to fear that partner has a strong hand. It also makes it possible to pass out the 2♦ bid. This means that the opponents cannot use the often succesful sit-back-and-wait-what-opener-actually-has approach. Rik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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