pclayton Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Pard opens 1♥, all vul IMP pairs and you look at: [hv=d=n&v=b&s=sqt9642h983dct532]133|100|Scoring: XIMP[/hv] Your call please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 2H. If you play 2H as constructive, this is a hand that may help you see the error of your ways ;) Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 2♠ shows my hand, nothing else does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 No expert here, and I'm about to prove it.... If 3♥ is pre-emptive (0+ hcp, 4+ hearts) I'll choose that. 3 hearts and a void has to be worth more than 4 hearts and a doubleton, and the hcp is certainly right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 2♥. The only other call I'd consider would be 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 2♥ for me.2♠ doesnt tell the story of the hand it hide the ♥ fit and shows a weaker hand in tricks potential.I would consider 1♠ and supporting ♥ later but i think most play that doign this usually shows a stronger hand, so im lft with 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 2♠ shows my hand, nothing else does. ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcauley Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 2♥ for me.2♠ doesnt tell the story of the hand it hide the ♥ fit and shows a weaker hand in tricks potential.I would consider 1♠ and supporting ♥ later but i think most play that doign this usually shows a stronger hand, so im lft with 2♥. Agree with 2♥ here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Pass. It's what I chose and I may be its only representative! I like to get extreme weakness across early, freeing me up for the later auction (I fondly hope). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 2♠ shows my hand, nothing else does. This depends on your agreements. For me, 2S denies 3 hearts. Support with support. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 2♥, ruff these ♦s in the short hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 1♠ of course. If I later give preference to hearts or correct 1N to 2♥ that doesn't show a good hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 1♠ of course. If I later give preference to hearts or correct 1N to 2♥ that doesn't show a good hand. This isn't universal Arend. If pard bids 2 minor, 2♥ sounds like a forced preference. If pard bids 1N, many play 2♥ as a borderline limit raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 OK, I have enough responses. I tried 2♥. Pard not unexpectedly makes a game try with 3♦ (help suit). Has this hand blossomed into a 4♥ call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 1♠ of course. If I later give preference to hearts or correct 1N to 2♥ that doesn't show a good hand. This isn't universal Arend. If pard bids 2 minor, 2♥ sounds like a forced preference. If pard bids 1N, many play 2♥ as a borderline limit raise. I know that's why I am saying it isn't for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 1♠: no second choice. If partner rebids 1N: I happily bid 2♠, even tho that is presumably constructive, but (I hope) non-invitational. My hand is worth this opposite a doubleton ♠ and 5♥s. If he rebids 2 minor, I have a comfortable 2♥ preference: I don't care that I have an extra ♥... I have a compensating lack of hcp. If he raises ♠s: well, my guess would be to pass a single raise and to accept an invite... we are vul at imp pairs whene making thin vulnerable games is a huge plus. If he rebids 2N: I get out in 3♠ (surely I can do that?) If he jumpshifts, then I am not going to be all that embarrassed with my 3♥ preference. If he jumps to 3♥, I pass... this is not inconsistent with accepting a raise to 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 1♠: no second choice. If partner rebids 1N: I happily bid 2♠, even tho that is presumably constructive, but (I hope) non-invitational. My hand is worth this opposite a doubleton ♠ and 5♥s. If he rebids 2 minor, I have a comfortable 2♥ preference: I don't care that I have an extra ♥... I have a compensating lack of hcp. If he raises ♠s: well, my guess would be to pass a single raise and to accept an invite... we are vul at imp pairs whene making thin vulnerable games is a huge plus. If he rebids 2N: I get out in 3♠ (surely I can do that?) If he jumpshifts, then I am not going to be all that embarrassed with my 3♥ preference. If he jumps to 3♥, I pass... this is not inconsistent with accepting a raise to 3♠. FWIW, pard tries 2♣ over 1♠. He probably passes 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 OK, I have enough responses. I tried 2♥. Pard not unexpectedly makes a game try with 3♦ (help suit). Has this hand blossomed into a 4♥ call? uhh, no...you were bidding 2♥ because it's more preemptive than passing and you're "close" to having the bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 2H. If you play 2H as constructive, this is a hand that may help you see the error of your ways ;) Peter Pass. I play 2H as constructive. ;) I do not think this is close to 2H constructive for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 BTW most people screw up a lot after the opps bid 1M-2M -- I noticed youre playing IMP pairs so if I didnt respect my opps then I would bid 2♥ for sure....not 1♠ -Noble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 I would definitely bid 1S, bidding 2H is asking to get too high. If we bid 1S we get our suit in that may be the right strain, when we later preference we sound like we have only 2 card support so partner is slowed down, etc etc. Over the game try why would I ever consider bidding game? I would try bidding 2H again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 Pard actually held: ♠x ♥AKJTx, ♦JTx ♣KQJx. I think this is a very prototypical hand for a HSGT. I retreated to 3♥, but had a queasy feeling I might have enough for game. The hand was friendly; 1. high ♠ lead2. trump shift, won in hand with J3. ♦ruff4. ♠ruff5. ♦ruff6. knock out ♣A giving up the high ♠, 3rd ♦ and the ♣A +170 vul :P Next time they'll lead a trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted June 4, 2007 Report Share Posted June 4, 2007 OK, I have enough responses. I tried 2♥. Pard not unexpectedly makes a game try with 3♦ (help suit). Has this hand blossomed into a 4♥ call? no, I'll signoff at 3-level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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