gwnn Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 You hold [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sxxhaxdkjt8xcaqxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] in 3rd seat. it goes p-3♥-? What do you bid now? what's your minimum for various possible bids (X 3NT 4♦ 4NT(?)) with the same distribution? which are the ones you'd never consider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Pass, my minimum for bidding with balanced is 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vang Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 pass. obvious with a passed hand partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 as above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Pass. Tougher if pard hasn't already passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Pass. I disagree with Phil, it's an easy pass if partner weren't a passed hand too, it will just turn out to have been wrong more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 PASS There is no bid that describes this hand at this level, and pass is not a dirty word. Partner will always be there with an opportunity to re-open. (What can you make with this hand opposite a flat 10 count? Not too much.) DHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Pass. I disagree with Phil, it's an easy pass if partner weren't a passed hand too, it will just turn out to have been wrong more often. Agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Pass. I disagree with Phil, it's an easy pass if partner weren't a passed hand too, it will just turn out to have been wrong more often. Its an uncomfortable pass facing an unpassed partner, but I still pass. We could have a laydown 3N with pard holding a vanilla 12 count. With a passed pard, all that appears to be at risk is the part score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 This isn't very close to a bid opp a passed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Pass. I disagree with Phil, it's an easy pass if partner weren't a passed hand too, it will just turn out to have been wrong more often. Agree 100%. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 OK so everyone passes. Could any of you guys answer the subsequent questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 what's your minimum for various possible bids (X 3NT 4♦ 4NT(?)) with the same distribution? which are the ones you'd never consider? Minimum for X: With this shape, at least 17 or 18. If partner bids spades I would simply hope he has 5 or 6.Minimum for 3NT: About 16 with this shape.Minimum for 4♦: I don't think I would ever make that bid with this shape. It's really a bid I try to avoid, I would need 6+ diamonds and some reason to think either 3NT isn't likely to be where we belong or just can't be bid. Also I would need quite a good hand.Minimum for 4NT: Never with this shape. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 If I bid with this shape it would be 3N 97 % of the time and X the other 3 % of the time. I would bid 3N with some 15s, most 16s, and probably all 17s with a stoper. I With 15/16/17 and no stopper I would probably pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 For me, 4♦ is a convention but even if I played it as natural I'd rarely if ever bid it with a 5-card. The choice with this shape is between dbl followed by 4♦ over 3♠ (but then the diamonds must be solid), or dbl followed by 3N (which should show a much stronger hand a preferably 3♠, or just 3N. So most of the times I would bid 3N, which would take a queen more than this hand if partner is unpassed and a king more than this hand if he's passed. I'd sometimes have to try 3N without a hearts guard. With ♠AK of spades instead of ♥A I'd probably dbl and pass 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 pass, I considered 3NT, ... but I dont thinkit will make, and being red, it may get expencive, ... there is still a guy waitingto bid the first time With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Unanimous? An easy pass. 4D for me shows D+S 5/5, (Would you seriously bid 4D on a 5 card suit anyway?). 3NT would need a much better hand, preferably, but not necessarily, a more robust stopper but definitley a source of tricks. 4NT with this shape and such weak suits is off with the pixies. Maybe xx x AKJxx AQJxx or similar as an absolute minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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