redbird97 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sxhaqxxxxdaxcakqx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Sitting North with silent opponents you open 1H and partner responds 2H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I debated on this hand, but am going to go with 3♠ splinter (if available). I want to start partner cue-bidding. If he bids 3NT, I'll be content with a 4♥ call.* If he bids 4♣, then it's trickier, and I will go with 4♦ and see if I can't get a 4♠ call out of him (although I imagine I'll have a bit of a problem over his likely 4♥ response). If he bids 4♦, then I'm simply bringing out the ol' black. If he bids 4♥, I will let it go. *Here I think it might make sense to give an alternative meaning to a 3NT bid, but will not assume it for the partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Hi, 3C. I have several question - overall strength, has he min / max for his 2H bid- honor placement 3C may burn space, if partner jumps to 4H withoutshowing values on the side, but maybe I hear 3D (great)or 3S (bad), which answer both questionsAnd even after a 4H bid I known, that the 5 level will be fairlysafe, i.e. I can bid 4NT. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 3♠, If partner can't cue 4♦ I'll still bid 4NT and hope he has both keycards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I need A of Spade King of Hearts and King of Diamonds for a good grand. I need one KC for a bad smal slam. If I have no special agreement, how to aks pd for controls in suits, I will simply bid 4 NT, else I would bid 3 Club or 2 NT, whatever bid asks for controls up the line.A question for minimax does not realy help. KQJx, Jxx, QJx,xxx is pretty much max but no help. Axxx,JTxx,xxx,xx is submin but Slam is on the finesse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I need A of Spade King of Hearts and King of Diamonds for a good grand. I need one KC for a bad smal slam. If I have no special agreement, how to aks pd for controls in suits, I will simply bid 4 NT, else I would bid 3 Club or 2 NT, whatever bid asks for controls up the line.A question for minimax does not realy help. KQJx, Jxx, QJx,xxx is pretty much max but no help. Axxx,JTxx,xxx,xx is submin but Slam is on the finesse. As far as I'm aware, 3♠ is the cheapest bid to start eliciting cuebids. I suppose you can argue that 2NT followed by 3♠ over 3♥ might elicit cuebids equivalently. However, partner can cross your intentions easier by jumping to 4♥ with one of those max hands without great controls. So why not tell partner about your singleton spade? He might be looking at ♠xxx or the ♠A and know that his hand fits well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 As far as I'm aware, 3♠ is the cheapest bid to start eliciting cuebids. I suppose you can argue that 2NT followed by 3♠ over 3♥ might elicit cuebids equivalently. However, partner can cross your intentions easier by jumping to 4♥ with one of those max hands without great controls. So why not tell partner about your singleton spade? He might be looking at ♠xxx or the ♠A and know that his hand fits well. I am not sure about this. I prefer to play asking bids after splinters and I have no idea what mainstream is. But luckily I know what my regular partners play and sometimes I even remember it. :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 As far as I'm aware, 3♠ is the cheapest bid to start eliciting cuebids. I suppose you can argue that 2NT followed by 3♠ over 3♥ might elicit cuebids equivalently. However, partner can cross your intentions easier by jumping to 4♥ with one of those max hands without great controls. So why not tell partner about your singleton spade? He might be looking at ♠xxx or the ♠A and know that his hand fits well. Hi, it is more a question, what you want to hear.You have all suits under control, i.e. you dontneed a cue, you need to know his honor locations. 3C does not force partner to cue, but he should bid side values, and he will bid 3D, if he has amediocrite hand with diamonds value. After 3S you have to guess, why he did bid 4H,because he has wastage in spades or becausehe is min (this assumes, that he has the rightto ignore a cue in case he is min, obviously a matter of partnership agreement).Bidding 4NT is a guess, and I would ask you, whybid 3S, if you intend to bid 4NT anyway over 4H. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 4NT. KISS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 3♠. Even 4♥ could be in danger if partener has lost points in ♠ (KQx xxx Q10xx xxx for example) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 RKC. Kiss I assume 2h is constructive. btw I would have opened this hand 2clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I make the splinter in S and hope to hear 4D. A direct KC 4NT is an open option. I do not agree this hand should be opened 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I don't like 3♠ because if partner has ♠AK and ♥K he will never see the spade king as useful. It is. So, hopefully I am playing Kantar RKCB. I will bid 4NT, settling for a hopeful 6♥ if missing one keycard. If he has two, I will use kantar asking bids to investigate further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 My first instinct was 4N so that we can have a good shot at avoiding a diamond lead. My second instinct was 3D so we can have an even better chance at avoiding a diamond lead. My third instinct is 3C since we might easily belong in 6C (xxx Kxx xxx Jxxx or whatever, add some random honors in where you see fit). My fourth instinct was 3S since we may not have a slam at all and this will diagnose it the best. UGH. Probably I would not bid 3S since I hate the idea of helping them out. I would likely bid 4N or 3D at the table I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 3♠, now I'll read the expert replies :) I expect my partner to cue after 3♠ even with a minimum, I'll bid 4nt over 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I think I'd bid RKC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I would probably bid 3♣ in case we belong in clubs which is very possible, then over 3♥ follow with 4♦, which should get partner to evaluate correctly in the context of his having shown a minimum already. If partner has just heart king and diamond king and out that is not good enough in my opinion to cuebid over 3♠. I admit either blasting 4NT or bidding 3♦ to discourage the lead could definitely work, but it's just not my style. I will steal fewer 'bad' slams, but get to more making 6♣ and 7♣ when it is there and reach my good slams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 ♠x♥AQxxxx♦Ax♣AKQx Sitting North with silent opponents you open 1H and partner responds 2H ...and I go slamming. "Paging Ken Rexford. Mr Rexford to the bidding forums please." 3♣ Advance Cue followed by 4♦ if pard tries to sign off in 3♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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