Free Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 You hold:[hv=d=n&v=n&s=skqj983hqt6dq3ca6]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] And the auction goes:1♦ - 3♣ - 3♠ - 5♣Dbl - pass - ???(1♦ shows 14+HCP and an unbalanced hand with 4+♦) Do you think 5♠ is makable or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 You hold: Dealer: North Vul: N/S Scoring: IMP ♠ KQJ983 ♥ QT6 ♦ Q3 ♣ A6 And the auction goes:1♦ - 3♣ - 3♠ - 5♣Dbl - pass - ???(1♦ shows 14+HCP and an unbalanced hand with 4+♦) Do you think 5♠ is makable or not? Pass Partner has made a decision based on the available information to her, she did not make a forcing pass. Going for a plus score. I have no idea if 5s makes or not but I think we can beat 5 clubs. btw "FTL" seems to say 5 spades makes.13-4+2=11 tricks.13=total tricks-4= estimated combined two shortest suits.+2=estimated combined working hcp. 28 whcp. if only 27 we should pass. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Hi, Pass. Partner did state, that he prefered going after the penalty, and since you hold a hand partner can expect, there is noreason to overwrite his decision. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Pass Partner has made a decision based on the available information to her, she did not make a forcing pass. Going for a plus score. I have no idea if 5s makes or not but I think we can beat 5 clubs. Mike, I find it amazing when we agree on anything, but here I agree with you. I don't understand. Did someone slip some LSD into my lunch? It's been so long... In general, I think that pulling partner's penalty double is a A Very Bad Idea, unless you have a hand which partner won't expect. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 5♠ might make, but i can see many ways of going down (a heart ruff, a diamond ruff or even losing 2 spade tricks and another ace). I don't have anything special to pull double, and partner doesn't have also, he didn't make a forcing pass. So i'll just chalk my plus score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 I don't know if 5S makes but passing is as clear as a cloudless sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcauley Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 trust the p and pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Pass. ODR too low for offensive action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 ?! I have already promised a 5.5 carded spade suit and a good hand. What reason would there be to repeat my message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 Do you think 5♠ is makable or not? Do I think partner would understand if I try to guess this at the table and pull his double? I have a painless pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 P's double must be a forward double since otherwise this isn't a problem. Playing standard methods, everybody passes. If it's a forward double I can't pass. I'd probably bid 5♠ allthough 5♦ could be right. Or maybe 5N or 6♣, whichever means pick-a-slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 P's double must be a forward double since otherwise this isn't a problem. Playing standard methods, everybody passes. I have a feeling this is on the wrong forum...I haven't seen an SAYC-type opening where 1 diamond promises an unbalanced 4, and I think the X must not be penalty, although I can't imagine why not. Partner should have some way of showing a singleton spade, since that's a darned likely holding for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 29, 2007 Report Share Posted May 29, 2007 There have now been two replies saying that partner's double must have been conventional in some way, otherwise how can this be a problem? That seems to sum the hand up nicely. Playing 3S = FG with 5+ spades, pass over 5C as forcing and double as penalties it's difficult to construct a more obvious pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbreath Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 hi I rarely know better than my partner, and if I did i certainly wouldnt tell her. PASS Rgds Dog :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 ?! I have already promised a 5.5 carded spade suit and a good hand. What reason would there be to repeat my message? that's what I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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