paulg Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 [hv=d=e&v=n&n=s97h87643dakj9cj4&e=sa654h5d862cakt72]266|200|Scoring: IMPWest North East South...........1♣..2♥2♠..4♦..4♠..All pass As North you lead the ♦K. Partner plays the ♦7 (reverse count) and declarer plays the ♦5. Your lead?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Switch, to hearts. Pard would only play the 7 as encouraging if he had QT7 from the beginning. All other holdings would play differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 I really can't tell partners ♦ holding, it might be Q7, T7, Q74, Q73, 743, 7. He should play the ten from T7x, so that's out. Since it's IMP's I can "safely" switch to a heart anyway. If partner holds the ace, or if he's got ♣Qxx, we'll beat this. The only time this might cost more than an overtrick IMP is when partner holds a singleton ♦7 and declarer has KQxxx K QTxxx Qx. Now he can discard three ♦'s on dummy's ♣'s and make it, while continuing ♦'s would beat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 If you give count after the lead of a king, maybe you should lead the ace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Ok, I'm confused. The king asked for count or was it just the normal play from that holding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted May 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 The ♦K asked for count (the choice of a Gold Cup holder). If you lead the ♦A instead, partner plays a reverse attitude ♦7. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 The ♦K asked for count (the choice of a Gold Cup holder). If you lead the ♦A instead, partner plays a reverse attitude ♦7. Paul It doesn't change much.The 7 could then be from 743, Q7, T7 or 7 (as I play it).I'd still switch to a ♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 I have mentioned before that I don't understand ace for attitude king for count. How does the leader know which he wants before seeing dummy? It makes more sense to me against high level contracts and sacrifices, where the lead is often a bare ace and we need to try and cash out quickly, since then the attitude is strictly for the king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 19, 2007 Report Share Posted May 19, 2007 Seems totally clear to shift to a heart. This can be wrong but it takes very specific layouts. Usually to beat them we are going to need partner to have the ace of hearts, and he did bid 2H. If he has the ace of hearts his diamond holding is irrelevant. If our fourth trick is a trump and partner has no HA we are still ok since declarer cant pitch the diamond successfully. If our fourth trick is clubs we are ok since declarer cant pitch the diamond on the clubs. This signal is impossible to read but luckily we don't have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted May 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 I really can't tell partners ♦ holding, it might be Q7, T7, Q74, Q73, 743, 7. He should play the ten from T7x, so that's out. Since it's IMP's I can "safely" switch to a heart anyway. If partner holds the ace, or if he's got ♣Qxx, we'll beat this. The only time this might cost more than an overtrick IMP is when partner holds a singleton ♦7 and declarer has KQxxx K QTxxx Qx. Now he can discard three ♦'s on dummy's ♣'s and make it, while continuing ♦'s would beat it.This was a hand from the Scottish Cup final yesterday. Brian Short, current Gold Cup holder, also switched to a heart and there were cries of dismay from the commentators as partner did hold the singleton ♦7 and Harald's analysis of how the contract would now make was correct. Short's team did go on to win the final easily. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Only the hideous hog could signal with a singleton :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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