bid_em_up Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Neither vul. RHO Dealer. Playing with an aspiring intermeditate player, the following auction occurs: (1♥)-3♣-p-p(X)-p-p-xx-p-? You hold: xxx x Qx AJ107xxx Is the redouble SOS or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Neither vul. RHO Dealer. Playing with an aspiring intermeditate player, the following auction occurs: (1♥)-3♣-p-p(X)-p-p-xx-p-? You hold: xxx x Qx AJ107xxx Is the redouble SOS or not? My rule is if X is game, XX is SOS (don't get greedy). So I would take this as SOS, 5-5 in the pointy suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 XX should be SOS because penalty XX in this auction does not make sense. Penalty XX is almost always a bad money bid. That is: If 3CX makes, you get lots of points. The XX adds only a little more for making, but has 2 serious drawbacks: 1) It gives opps a chance to run, and 2) If XX'er is wrong, because suits break crazy and contract goes down, the XX costs more than it gains. So for those 2 reasons, the penalty XX is usually not a smart bid, so using it for SOS makes sense. In this case, a sane advancer should only SOS if holding a 5-5 or better in the 2 unbid suits along with a void in clubs. Therefore, bid 3S. If advancer actually had a good hand with clubs, then it was a very poor bid, because the opps messed up and the XX gave opps a chance to reconsider and save themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I would expect a significant majority of expert level players to treat this as SOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I play as SOS xx after many bids, including opening one bids and overcalls. I've never heard of it after a jump overcall but I suppose responder could be 6-6 in the unbid suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 This sure looks like an SOS XX to me and I expect PD to by 55 or more in the pointed suits so I believe him and bid 3♠. 3Cx would be a very fine score anyhow, noting that PD didn't advance your 3♣ WJO and there seems little reason to allow the opps to get another chance to bid 3♥ if the XX chases you to ♦. A business XX on a sequence like this where 3♣x making is a wonderful score makes very little bridge sence to me. Holding only 1♥ I expect PD to be 5350 distribution and the opps couldn't find a 3♥ bid with perhaps opener having a weak 6 carder. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I play as SOS xx after many bids, including opening one bids and overcalls. I've never heard of it after a jump overcall but I suppose responder could be 6-6 in the unbid suits. ♠ xxx♥ AKJ10x♦ KQ98x♣ --- ♠ xx♥ xx♦ xx♣ K10xxxxx This hand occurred recently. None vulnerable, South made a (terrible) jump overcall to 3♣ over my 1♠ opening, and North failed to run to 3♥ or redouble for rescue. (which in this case would have saved them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 100 % SOS. Just look at it this way, there's NO WAY that the 3C bidders partner can have a penalty XX. He passed 3C, and later learned that there was a trump stack offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 No. Partnership agreement, ... I hate SOS,but if you make a 3C jump overcall onthis garbage at eq. vul., I presume you will need SOS XX, good luck. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: If the partner of the 3C bidder, believes,that there is a fair chance of making, and 3C isat most -1, XX is an valid option, you dont loosemuch, but you see what they are made off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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