badderzboy Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Our opps bid 4NT in the following sequence as Unusual NT as they had 5-5 in minors as a sacrifice but their partner had bid 1S... 1H-1S-4H-4NT(alerted 5-5 in minors)... i)Should 4NT be Blackwood here? ii) Can you show 5-5 in minors in this sequence? My partner and I would always play this as RKCB but opps had a mare as the partner read as Blackwood and ended up in v.bad slam in 6S... The opps who are friends of ours asked me to post for expert input.. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 (i) First I'd like to note that it's a known fact that most players use blackwood too much. If you want to play it as blackwood, no problems, but it doesn't have to be. It can be whatever you want, but blackwood and 55+ minors are the most common I guess. (ii) Yes it can. If your partner has a 5 card Spades, and opps have about 10 Hearts together, why can't you have a 5-5 in the other suits and show them? You won't get many such hands, but you'll still get one from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Hi, I think the general theory here from the 4NT bidder point of veiw is that if your partner has spades and you have both minors, where are their tricks coming from? With that in mind, 4NT as get out trying to find a minor fit which may or may not exist seems a poorish use of the 4NT bid. Does that mean you can't play it that way? Of course not, 4NT as two suiter takeout is common, as is 4NT as blackwood. I would play 4NT as blackwood here, however, and DBL of 4H as "takeout" (WHAT!!!!!). If I had five-five in the minors I would double for takeout and expect partner to pass this double a fair amount of the time and lead a heart. To read more on high level takeout doubles, see Robson/Segal's excellent book "Partnership Bidding". While out of print, Dan Neill has it on his webpage win PDF format. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Without previous agreement, I would always take this to be Blackwood of some sorts (whichever agreed), but there is a very good case for that to have some other meaning. Having said that, it is always risky bidding without a known fit at the 5 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trpltrbl Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Totally depends on agreement, but I would X if I had both minors, but I think if you agreed upon that, it should also show tolerance for http://mnet.bg/~mfn/s.gif, so pd has a bid in case no minors. With many not so regular pd's I think this 4 NT should just be RKC. And this is just a prime example why preempts really can stick it to you <_< And the 1 http://mnet.bg/~mfn/s.gif overcall can, at least in my case, be based on very light overcall. My overcalls are about 7-16 HCP, the fewer the points, the more concentrated in overcalled suit they are. As long as RKC bidder knows I am, probably, not going to show the world to him. ;) Nice bidding to use bridgejudgement. :D Mike :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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