jim420 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Both sides were casual partners and played a few sensible deals. Then this hand pops out. Just pure madness... [hv=d=w&v=e&n=skt8h65d62cj97654&w=sq4hkq873dkt87ck8&e=s76hat942daj9543c&s=saj9532hjdqcaqt32]399|300|Scoring: IMPW N E S1♥ p 2♦ 2♠3♦ p 4♥ 4♠X XX p pp lead ♦K4♠XXS+1+15.8 IMP to NS[/hv] The play:♦K ♦2 ♦A ♦Q♦J ♠2 ♦7 ♦6♠3 ♠Q ♠K ♠6♠8 ♠7 ♠J ♠4♠5 ♥3 ♠T ♦3♣J ♥2 ♣2 ♣K♣8 ♣4 ♦4 ♣T♣A ♦8 ♣5 ♥4♣Q ♦T ♣6 ♦5♣3 ♥7 ♣9 ♦9♣7 ♥9 ♥J ♥8South claims 11 tricks ----------------------------------- 1) Do you agree with 2♠? and what about 4♠?2) Do you think this "madness" is anyone's fault? In particular, what do you think about those X and XX?3) How can the defense do better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Interesting. I'd never find the club ruffs at the table. South could have said 3♦ to show the hand better, but that leads to 5♣-1. Seems reasonable enough to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 1 --- 2♠ is ok... 4♠ is a bid.2 --- East is at fault, he has a known double fit and should be thinking slam, I assume pass of 4♠ was forcing, and as such was a mistake only when he later passed the redouble. Responder should have bid 5♣ over the redouble. This show very strong slam interest (he could have bid 5♣ over 4♠ which is less strong interest, and would have been my choice.. bear in mind, he jumped to 4♥ presumably in a forcing auction, which to me is weaker than having bid 3♥ on the round earlier.3 --- EAST should never, ever overtake the diamond KING.. partner raised diamonds and presumably has at least three. And EAST despirately wants partner to lead a club. Play iether the 2 or J of diamnods, which ever one ask for DONT LEAD THEM Again. It is unlikely that partner is asking to stop diamonds because he he wants a heart, so the club swithc will come, ruff, heart 2 back, confirming another trump, and another ruff. If you play neutral diamond as continue here, then High could ask for heart, and low could ask for a club. You can play that way when responder has promised a long suit (such as with a 2♦ bid). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 1♥: Top notch 2♦: Who heard of support with support? Terrible bid. Gotta support partner! 2♠: Not my choice but can understand his problem. 2NT here would show the remaining suits and would be just fine I guess. 3♦: Looks like West is a sensible player (supporting partner ;)) 4♥: Don't like this either. Why sign off when you know of the double fit? 4♠: Discussed South's problem before. Opps are strong and you too! 4♠ completely reasonable Dbl: West must have felt Pass was forcing (correct) and admit it, this hand is NOT great for 5♥. Sensible player, this West guy. I hope this was the opening poster :) Rdbl: I wouldn't do that because opps would surely run. Maybe he knew something I don't. Pass: Worst call of the auction. After not bidding slam, oh well... Pass: Wait and see Pass: I've said it all - partner sat for it. Let's defend well! ************* FINAL SCORE: 100% East's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim420 Posted May 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 First, thanks for your replies. Dbl: West must have felt Pass was forcing (correct) and admit it, this hand is NOT great for 5♥. Sensible player, this West guy. I hope this was the opening poster Sorry to disappoint you ;), but I was South, the declarer. As soon as p XXed my 4♠ bid I was thinking I had overbid my hand terribly to give him this confidence. Hence the 1st Question. I didn't know what was happening until I reviewed the play later. I saw that 4♠ could be set too, and knew I was only escaping luckily.I wanted to know how EW could have done better. Strangely, what was W thinking when he returned the ♣8? He was not expecting a ruff after his p showed out in trumps when I returned to dummy at trick 5. His only hope lies in ♥, but he did not return it. The opening lead ♦K was also peculiar to me. If W had not supported ♦ I would think this could be a singleton, would you? One last point was on 2 tables EW managed to make 6♥ on this hand. The auction went 1♥ p 6♥ p p p. North would tend to lead ♣ rather than ♠, and that gives EW all 13 tricks! Quite interesting hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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