ewj Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sat7hkqj7dk4caq64]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] 2♠ is opened on your left...(weak). You double and partner bids 2NT Lebensohl...what's your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I think Frances (?) just told us not to bid 3NT over lebensohl. I'm bidding 3NT in the hope that she will explain why this is wrong. This seems a common situation and I haven't given it much thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 You can use paradox responses.... Don't bid 3♣ if you want to force if partner has clubsIf you also wouldn't want to pass a diamond suit, don't bid 3♦If you also wouldn't want to pass a heart suit, then don't bid 3♥ Here, i would bid 3♦ i think. If partner has diamonds, ok, we might play 3D but at least he knows i have a great hand. If he has hearts, even better. At the table, I think I would bid 3♠/3NT accepting all game tries, prefering 3NT to have lead from bidder. Partner with hearts will surely pull, and hopefully with some long minor things might put is in five or six of those as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Dealer: North Vul: None Scoring: IMP ♠ AT7 ♥ KQJ7 ♦ K4 ♣ AQ64 2♠ is opened on your left...(weak). You double and partner bids 2NT Lebensohl...what's your bid? you can make this hand as tough and difficult with all the conventions wish..I overcall 2nt. not x. At the very least I do not give my partner a problem, she just bids her hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 X is clear cut as long as you don´t play 2 NT as 19-20- and even then it could be the better call.I bid 3 NT, I have about 8 HCPs more then promised, I must show this somehow.Pd will pull this when he needs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Another option would be to bid 3NT direct. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Bidding is 2♠-pass-pass? At reopen position I would reopen with 3NT. This hand s way different from the one Frances posted before, lebensohl's upper range for a player who passed a weak 2 is around 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 The goal here seems to be make problems for your pickup partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_c Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 This is different to the hand from the Spring Fours because there is a reasonable chance of being able to cut the hand with the long spades off by ducking one or two rounds. On the other hand, partner's 2NT does not promise anything at all in this situation. I would bid 3♣ at this point. I think there are some hands too strong for a 2NT overcall which are still not strong enough to bid 3NT over Lebensohl. Maybe we'll miss game this way, maybe not. But I think 3♣ is the percentage bid. Going low also has the advantage of getting to 4♥ rather than 3NT when it's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 A friend of mine invented a convention for this situation: 3♦ shows 18+ and 4-card major(s). This gives pard a chance to bid 3♥ now with 4. Without that, I guess I'd try 3NT.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I would have overcalled 2NT last round; you are allowed to be maximum for the bid sometimes. Having doubled first, if you have agreed that 3D shows a great hand for clubs, then as inquiry says you could do that... but the majority play that 3d shows lots of diamonds and a poor hand for clubs (whether or how many extra values it shows being another matter for agreement). On this hand I just bid 3C. If partner couldn't make a constructive (7/8 HCP+) call over the double, why am I making 3NT? There was a hand this weekend where someone raised their partner's lebensohl to 3NT, but they had a 22-count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 On this hand I just bid 3C. If partner couldn't make a constructive (7/8 HCP+) call over the double, why am I making 3NT? This hand s way different from the one Frances posted before, lebensohl's upper range for a player who passed a weak 2 is around 9. Ok, I was probably wrong ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 It's very close between 3♣ and 3NT - a tough problem. At IMPs I'd normally bid the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goobers Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I've never played Lebensohl here (pardon the newbie speaking), but as I understand it, doesn't partner deny a good hand? We have a 19 count, but if partner has an awful hand (this is what this convention is for, right?), then we're surely not making anything, and we just accept the relay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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