firmit Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 A beginner question perhaps - but please, give me your thoughts. You hold♠ Jxx♥ AQxx♦ QJ♣ xxxx Partner opens:1♥ - (2♠)* alerted weak jump shift? your bid 1♥ is 9-14(15)hp 4+hearts.Would your bid change if 1♥ was 4+ 11-21hp? What if std. showing 5+hearts 11-21hp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 3H, game has no chance, and I am fairlyflat. If I played unlimited openers, than i mayfeel a bit uneasy, but 3H still would be mybid, due to a lack of better alternatives.in case I could, I may reflect, if I should sellthe hand as inv.+ but it is borderline. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 3H seems clear, regardless of the definition of the opening bid. The hand is just not that good, even opposite 11-21 5cM. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 3♥ is plenty, even playing 5 card majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 In standard methods, a 3♥ bid shows something like a good single raise to a very minimum limit raise. With a good limit raise you have to bid game (perhaps via 3♠). Some people use an artificial 2NT bid here to show a strong raise. Anyways, this hand is very much in the "good single raise to very minimum limit raise" range. You have 10 points but they include a QJ tight and the likely-useless ♠J. So this is right on target for 3♥. I would bid 3♥ without the jacks too, but AQxx of hearts and out without a singleton isn't enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 I'd bid 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 AQxx of hearts and out without a singleton isn't enough. I think it is, unless 3433. That would be my minimum, if you assign it points I would call it about an 8 count and the bid shows something like 8 to below average 11. Anyway clear 3♥ with this hand. Maybe it's a hair above average for the bid, since I'm not at all pessimistic about the QJ of diamonds having value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 My first thought was 'If I was Imps and vulnerable, I'd bid 4♥'. The problem is, that probably won't be the end of the bidding. The next player will bid 4♠ and my partner will be confused by the mis-description of my hand. Partner knows the scoring and vulnerability too. I'll just bid 3♥, and let him bid the 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 3♥ for me, but if I felt my hand was worth just 1 more point, I'd bid 4♥. 3♥ should show a good single raise to a minimum limit raise, IMHO, and good limit raises should just blast to 4♥ and hope to make or that the opps err in their decision to bid 4♠. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 2NT if that shows a good raise (I sure want pard to help if LHO bids 3♠). 3♥ otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I'm a little too weak for 2NT - that should show eight losers.Put me down for 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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