jdonn Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 I'm tempted to log in with a couple of fake names and vote for 2♠, just to annoy Josh. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I CAN BE ANNOYED?!?! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foo Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 I agree wholeheartedly with this post. Unless you play 2C as an artificial GF, perhaps using some sort of relay structure, I think that 1S is a far superior bid for the reasons Foo mentions. What ARE those reasons? 1 is a slogan, and 2 doesn't apply since the hand in question does have significant extras (and misquoted, as Fred posted less than a month ago a hand where when 3334 with a 13 count he responded 2♣ to the opening bid). Meanwhile if you agree with Foo's alternative auction so wholeheartedly, you should stand up for yourself and go to the poll I put up a few hours ago to become the very first vote for 2♠. Whoa! there are 2 different issues being discussed here. a= Whether the 18 count =as Responder= should start with 1S or 2C b= Whether the 18 =as Opener= should JS 2S as their rebid. "b" is an deep position I took based on a miscount of the hand. Even I've retracted it(see other thread). "a" OTOH is no where near as extreme and has plenty of people on either side of responding 1S vs 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 I'm tempted to log in with a couple of fake names and vote for 2♠, just to annoy Josh. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I CAN BE ANNOYED?!?! :P Well you are a rude, objectionable, opinionated poop if you are not annoyed. :P In my case I am old and grumpy, but what is your excuse? Seriously, Foo is right in his last post. There are 2 issues involved. I have read the theories behind a 2C rather than a 1S response and, as I said before, unless playing some sort of art. structure, I don't buy them. The reason I much prefer a 1S bid is that by bidding 2C followed by 2S I can show a 5(+) 4 shape conveniently. If we respond 2C and eventually find a S fit, partner will be none the wiser about my C length. This could be crucial if he is looking at a good hand and something like the Kx of C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Well you are a rude, objectionable, opinionated poop if you are not annoyed. :P In my case I am old and grumpy, but what is your excuse? I haven't decided yet. Leaning toward blaming society, but on second thought I'm going to say it's Justin's fault somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 20, 2007 Report Share Posted May 20, 2007 Well you are a rude, objectionable, opinionated poop if you are not annoyed. :lol: In my case I am old and grumpy, but what is your excuse? That's not an excuse, maybe it's a cause. I think it is rather unfortunate that your posts always suggest that your opinions are the only right opinions. It makes you look like a poor bridge player while sometimes it seems that you are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 21, 2007 Report Share Posted May 21, 2007 Well at least I am not a sycophant who blindly agrees with comments because of by whom they are made and not because of their content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 22, 2007 Report Share Posted May 22, 2007 Well at least I am not a sycophant who blindly agrees with comments because of by whom they are made and not because of their content. Unfortunately, the effect of words depends more on who speaks them than on what they actually are :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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