paulg Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=sjt87432hq42datcq]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]mickyb has already posted some distributional hands from the Spring Fours. Here is another opening bid problem from Round 6 (or the quarter-finals of the plate competition in our case). Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Hi, First, what I wont do: I wont open 1S, and I wont pass. The later may be best, but I wont do it.That leaves a preempt, and I would go with2S. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 2S or 3S... wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_c Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 2♠. I can't remember ever opening a weak two on a seven-card suit before, but this looks like it might be the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 2S or 3S... wtp? How can you say wtp when you don't even choose a bid lol. I would pass for sure. Bad suit, tons of defense, Qxx of the other major, it has everything a preempt shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted May 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 2S or 3S... wtp? Is this not the definition of a problem :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 2♠ for me too, I've opened the odd weak two on defensive hands with a 7 card suit and it has worked well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Pass. I can live with 2S, anything else is sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Pass.. you don't have to bid every hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 2S or 3S... wtp? How can you say wtp when you don't even choose a bid lol. I would pass for sure. Bad suit, tons of defense, Qxx of the other major, it has everything a preempt shouldn't. since I am vul, i would downgrade the weak 7 carder to a 6 carder and open 2S. I was just being cute thinking about all the passers out there. But change swap out a Q for a small spade QJxxxxx Qxx Ax x and I open 3S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Pass.. you don't have to bid every hand. Huh. I'd open 2♠ myself, but if I had an agreement with partner that kept me from opening 2♠, I'd open 1♠ rather than pass. Points schmoints. I have a 27 ZAR count (enough to open even without the Q♣), a great Losing Trick Count, good defense, great offense, and nice rebids. Those two 10s aren't chopped liver either. I don't think partner will be disappointed with my hand. I'm also concerned that I'm going to have a heck of a time if I start out with a pass convincing partner I have this kind of hand, especially if he opens a heart. But then, maybe that's why I'm not an expert. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 3♠ for me, I don't think of this ones too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I have too much defense for a pree. I think I'm going with a very uncharacteristic pass :) aaaaha, screw it. 1♠ .. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 this one ill pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Just pass. This hand is neither fish nor fowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I'm getting better but I doubt that I could pass here - 3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 2S, I understand pass, but it's not my style. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 This is not a good hand to preempt on vul. It has numerous disadvantages. For one thing, you are not particularily interested in suggesting a sacrafice. For another, vul preempts should be constructive as well as preemptive bids. By this, I mean your partner can count on a high Offensive to Defensive ratio. Here your hand is upside down, other than long spades, you have high defensive and low offensive values. Your partner is surely going to go wrong if he is trying to decide between bidding on or defending if he relies on the opposite nature of your hand than what you hold. And, should you be so inclined. The odds are good you will get a chance to bid again in the auction and now you will not be too misleading, to pass then bid suggest higher defensive and lower offensive values. Of course, I would not bid too much should I decide to enter the auction later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BebopKid Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I'd open 1♠ or jump overcall opponents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I pass, I can always come in later with a fit showing non-jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 I pass, I can always come in later with a fit showing non-jump. Of course that may be a non-fit showing jump :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 It turns out that this is a part-score hand, so passing or opening 1♠ will get you a small plus by defending the opponent's contract. The big winners are the pre-emptors. They will play in 2♠ or 3♠ doubled and make 9 tricks, as LHO has a normal takeout double and RHO has 4333 distribution with ♠AKQx. Flat in +870 was a common result. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Muhahahaha, take that you passers! Oh sorry, this is not winstomn post, ooopss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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