MickyB Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=skqj3hat84djt5caj]133|100|Scoring: IMP(P)-1♣-(1♥)-X(2♣)-2♠-(P) 1♣ was nat or bal, but now opener has promised an unbal hand. X showed 4+♠, 2♣ was a good raise. If you make a generic game-try of 3♥, pard will jump to 4♠ promising a 4th spade.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 It would be nice if Opener would cue his clubs if he has KQJxx, so I can bid 4♥ to isolate the diamond hole, show slam interest, and get cooperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewj Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 It would be pretty cool to have 2NT here as a relay...why is 3[H] a "generic" game try though? I'd have thought 3[H] would set ♠ as trumps...don't you have 2NT/3♣/♦ for game tries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 The aforementioned generic 3♥, followed by a pass to 4♠. There should be 2 diamond losers or trouble setting up clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Try for slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 If you make a generic game-try of 3♥ is 3♠ preemptive? Even if partner has 4135, we cannot stablish clubs, ruff ♥s and run the clubs, because we lack trumps or entries to dummy. 4♠ looks ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drinbrasil Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=skqj3hat84djt5caj]133|100|Scoring: IMP(P)-1♣-(1♥)-X(2♣)-2♠-(P) 1♣ was nat or bal, but now opener has promised an unbal hand. X showed 4+♠, 2♣ was a good raise. If you make a generic game-try of 3♥, pard will jump to 4♠ promising a 4th spade.[/hv]he can have 3♠ in your system?? Not in mine after 2♣ bid...so i would bid anyway 4♠ :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I think I need to catch the magical: ATxx, x, Axx, KQxxx, but this is a 3♠ call for me. I think ATxx, x, Kx, KQxxxx is a 3♠ call as well. Pard usually has a 7 loser hand. I have a 7 loser hand. We probably don't have slam. Yet, how can 3♥ hurt? We can signoff over 4♣ and pard can still move if he 'misbid' his hand earlier :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 I think I need to catch the magical: ATxx, x, Axx, KQxxx Slam isn't ocld on the best hand, opponets have cued and that is probably because fo bad breaks so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 I don't think we can make a slam at all here. To make slam a good proposition, we'd need partner to hold a hand too strong for a mere 2♠ rebid. So I'd just raise to 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 I think I need to catch the magical: ATxx, x, Axx, KQxxx, but this is a 3♠ call for me. I think ATxx, x, Kx, KQxxxx is a 3♠ call as well. Pard usually has a 7 loser hand. I have a 7 loser hand. We probably don't have slam. Yet, how can 3♥ hurt? We can signoff over 4♣ and pard can still move if he 'misbid' his hand earlier :)I agree that 3♥ can't hurt... I have too many controls for partner to unilaterally commit to slam even if, as it would be for me, 3♥ is a game force, not a game try.. just what the heck do we need a 'generic' game try for when we have the entire 3 level? As for partner's magic hand, he sure better not bid 4♠ with it B) To me, 4♠ shows an ugly game acceptance (given the misuse of 3♥ foisted on us). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted May 10, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Over 2♠, the bids available were - 2NT natural+forcing3♣ natural+invitational3♦ ART setting spades3♥ undiscussed So I tried 3♥ B) Anyways, pard jumped to 4♠, and I got a bit excited and put us into slam. It's a reasonable contract if pard has the ♦9, but it wasn't to be. I agree that I overbid, especially considering that bad breaks are to be expected for the oppos strong bidding on few HCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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