Do you go on?

[ewj]

Although it's not really the point of the question for those who wanted to know partner's hand, I've been told it was the following

 

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Obviously he doesn't really have his bid and 5 is down anyway

[mikeh]

you may be bidding out of fear that 4♠ is making rather than because you expect a typical double to yield an 11 trick contract. x Jxxxxxx Kxx xx: would we all sell to 4♠ white v white on this? Opposite x KQxx Axxx Axxx, they have an easy game and our 5♥ is no more than 300... and there is no reason for the doubler to reopen after 4♠ P P.

 

This might explain some of the understanding about what constitutes an appropriate 5♥ call.

 

(Flashback - more recent): I'm reading a Swiss Teams Match from a Bridge World from 1991 a few months ago: x, Jxx, Jx, JT9xxxx. NV/NV: 3♠ on left, double by pard, 4♠ on right. The recommended action is a pass, followed by a pull of pard's double.

 

Therefore, I believe strongly that a free 5♥ bid in the given sequence shows a real hand, and not just a string of hearts that wants to sac over 4♠.

Must be nice to play that pass of 4♠ is forcing :)

 

It is easy to construct hands on which 5♥ is a great save over 4♠, and not too hard to construct (admittedly very shapely weak hands for partner) on which there rates to be a double game swing, and on which one cannot safely reopen with a double.

[whereagles]

pard was on steroids... lol

[Apollo81]

I believe strongly that a free 5♥ bid in the given sequence shows a real hand, and not just a string of hearts that wants to sac over 4♠.

I suspect that most people would bid 5♥ on worse hands than youd expect.

[pclayton]

you may be bidding out of fear that 4♠ is making rather than because you expect a typical double to yield an 11 trick contract. x Jxxxxxx Kxx xx: would we all sell to 4♠ white v white on this? Opposite x KQxx Axxx Axxx, they have an easy game and our 5♥ is no more than 300... and there is no reason for the doubler to reopen after 4♠ P P.

 

This might explain some of the understanding about what constitutes an appropriate 5♥ call.

 

(Flashback - more recent): I'm reading a Swiss Teams Match from a Bridge World from 1991 a few months ago: x, Jxx, Jx, JT9xxxx. NV/NV: 3♠ on left, double by pard, 4♠ on right. The recommended action is a pass, followed by a pull of pard's double.

 

Therefore, I believe strongly that a free 5♥ bid in the given sequence shows a real hand, and not just a string of hearts that wants to sac over 4♠.

Must be nice to play that pass of 4♠ is forcing :)

 

It is easy to construct hands on which 5♥ is a great save over 4♠, and not too hard to construct (admittedly very shapely weak hands for partner) on which there rates to be a double game swing, and on which one cannot safely reopen with a double.

:) I never said it was forcing, however, one of two things is apparent:

 

Pard has a mountain. We'll hear about it over 4♠.

 

Pard has a minimum double or maybe some extras. With the 1st, its an auto pass, with the 2nd its a hew and haw, followed by a pass. With the 1st case, I'd wonder if our opponents missed a slam. With the 2nd, we might have a 300 sac against their game - I can't remember the vulnerability, but thats life.

[pclayton]

Although it's not really the point of the question for those who wanted to know partner's hand, I've been told it was the following

 

[hv=s=sxhtxxxxdkxxxcxxx]133|100|[/hv]

 

Obviously he doesn't really have his bid and 5 is down anyway

5♥ is sick.