Edmunte1 Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sj83h10764dj75cqj3]133|100|[/hv]Holding in second position a wretched hand, remarkable only by all jacks collection, you hear opponents bidding 1NT(15-17, can have 5M/6m/singleton) - 3NT, and you're on lead.1) What's your lead in MP's?2) What's your lead in IMP's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 I think the J of spade both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Anything can be right or wrong, but I'll try the ♣Q in both cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Anything can be right or wrong, but I'll try the ♣Q in both cases. While anything can be right or wrong, some can be more wrong than others, imo. Given the lack of stayman by responder, he is more likely to have one or both minor suits than either major, and leading the club Q is too apt to give up a natural trick in the suit along with giving up your only likely later entry. To me, this makes the club Q a poor choice of lead. If I only expected to be on lead once, the spade J is probably the best choice. Since I somewhat expect to be on lead again (via the club suit), I would lead a small spade initially at either form of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Heart for me, I am crazy always leading my longest suit this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 At MPs; I lead a heart. Which one? I'm not sure I want to encourage a shift unless its clubs, but pard can't know that. So I'll lead a conventional 7. There is a microscopic risk that the 7 blows a trick and the 5 doesn't, but I'll lead it to make the hand easier for pard. IMPs? Very tough, but I think the ♣Q is best if we are trying to set the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcLight Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 I lead a low heart against IMPS. I think the contract will likely make.At MPs I also lead a low heart. IF I had a "safe" lead I would make that instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Mundane heart for me vs both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Hi, hearts. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: Why? Take your pick, e.g.I always lead my longest suit,all suits are dangerous, and aheart lead is the one I can defendmost easily.(There is nothing between spadesand diamonds, besides the lack ofstayman, which most likely meansnothing.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcvetkov Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 I trhink you have to consider overtricks in MP. Both spade and diamonds are dangerous and likely to blow a trick. Queen of clubs also, its too likely to hit K10x in dummy, so heart looks most passive and it may work out fine. in IMP, queen of clubs offers best chance to set the contract, it needs one decent card from partner, but also need to find him with length, and something tells me opener is loaded in minors. So I think I will try 8 of spades. Heart may work out but we need to find partner with a lot of goodies in ♥. Better to hope he has 4 or 5 decent spades and we have what looks like 1 entry. Partner is marked with 8-10 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Mundane heart for me vs both. ditto....and well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poky Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 IMP: ♠8MP: ♥7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 4th highest of my longest and strongest, either form of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 4th highest of my longest and strongest, either form of scoring. yupp I may forget this rule with AKQ,Txxxx;AK,xxx on lead against 3 NT but not with much less... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 4th highest of my longest and strongest, either form of scoring. yupp I may forget this rule with AKQ,Txxxx;AK,xxx on lead against 3 NT but not with much less... Depends on the bidding :) I had an unlucky evening years ago when I led twice a short suit instead of my 4 card unbid one, it turned out that both times we had 4-5 fit and I scored a big zero. Ever since then this ones become a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Strange for me to see so many that always lead thier longest suit, i remember free telling us that leading from 4 card is many times better then leading your 4 card (i didnt agree) and i saw an article about it by luis who claim to check it with a computer and find out that with a weak hand leading from 3 card is better then leading from 4 cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BebopKid Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 4 of ♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ycos Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 mp : low of spadeimp: low of hearth what ♥ or ♥ depend of carding sistem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcvetkov Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 4th highest of my longest and strongest, either form of scoring. yupp I may forget this rule with AKQ,Txxxx;AK,xxx on lead against 3 NT but not with much less... Depends on the bidding :) I had an unlucky evening years ago when I led twice a short suit instead of my 4 card unbid one, it turned out that both times we had 4-5 fit and I scored a big zero. Ever since then this ones become a no brainer. well, I disagree that this rule should be followed blindly. When you have one jack in your hand and zero chances of getting in,, leading from 10xxx is almost pointless, unless you can reasonably deduct that partner has length of 4 or more in the same suit. I agree is easier in post mortem with 4th always if the lead did not work, but as always you got to use your brain and all available information. In MP, if you have yarborough, there are overtricks to consider, so if you think contract is likely making, passive lead may be better, like 10 from 109x in favour of low from 10xxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junyi_zhu Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=sj83h10764dj75cqj3]133|100|[/hv]Holding in second position a wretched hand, remarkable only by all jacks collection, you hear opponents bidding 1NT(15-17, can have 5M/6m/singleton) - 3NT, and you're on lead.1) What's your lead in MP's?2) What's your lead in IMP's? this is a simple H lead for both IMP and MP.H lead is the least likely to blow a trick and when you hit partner's long hearts, it'salso good. if you really want to attack, S or D don't have to work out better than hearts. The same is true for C. Baically, you can expect two different types of 3nt bid, one is based on scattered HCP, the other is based on a long minor suit, for the first case, you really don't want to attack aggressively cause you may wait and take all declarer's losing guesses often. For the second case, you want to attack, but still, you don't know which suit to attack and H is still a very possible spot to attack. So H is really the percentage action and simple natural lead in my opinion.Change the suit into HQ432, it actually becomes less clear, cause this time you really need to hit partner's good hearts otherwise, H lead may blow a trick. So it may still be a good IMP lead, but less obvious for MP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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