mike777 Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=e&s=sak92ht9dqj873cj6]133|100|Scoring: MP(1C)=P=(1H)=?[/hv] Your choice and more importantly why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Playing Sandwich NT (4-4 or better in the unbid suits, less strength than a takeout double), this is easy. If not, 1S, 2D, and double aren't terrible, especially at this vulnerability, but I pass. The opps are unlimited, I'm not quite strong enough for a takeout double, and I may not get to show 2 suits without overstating my strength. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 X, the reason: it is safer than 1NT (provided that this showsboth suits), I can still play 1S. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 huh... wtp? isn't it an obvious dbl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 huh... wtp? isn't it an obvious dbl? Agree. I would X with less too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 huh... wtp? isn't it an obvious dbl? No, I am bidding one spade. I plan on passing after this and leaving the rest to partner. If the auction gets competitive can the overcall often be superior to the takeout double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 I don't understand overcalling 1S at all. You have 5 diamonds and 4 spades, why not get both suits into play? If the auction gets competitive it will be much better to have Xed since A) partner won't think you have 5 spades and :) you may need to compete or save in diamonds. The only time overcalling spades will be better is when partner has a guess on opening lead and has to lead spades, but you will be on lead vs hearts and vs NT a diamond lead is probably better anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 I don't understand overcalling 1S at all. You have 5 diamonds and 4 spades, why not get both suits into play? If the auction gets competitive it will be much better to have Xed since A) partner won't think you have 5 spades and :) you may need to compete or save in diamonds. The only time overcalling spades will be better is when partner has a guess on opening lead and has to lead spades, but you will be on lead vs hearts and vs NT a diamond lead is probably better anyways. Thanks for asking. To further the discussion and not to disagree with your points Justin I add these notes. I was wonder if overcalling one spade, gets us to a 4-3 spade fit and 2 level spades partial competitive fit when right at MP or a 4-4 sac in 4spades. Note on this hand we are at fav vul at MP.J7xx...J6....9x....A9xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 I would double, I tend to give up on game after 1x-1y, so double over 1NT its more like a matter of shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 If I agree that 1 NT is not natural but shows 4 Spades and 5 Diamonds, I will use this bid. In this case, I cannot double, because this would show another hand (4/4 in the suits f.e.)Without this tool, I surely double to show exactly 4 Spades and around 4 Diamonds.If the questions was, which way is better, I have no idea. I think the majority prefer to have 1 NT still as an natural bid avaiable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 huh... wtp? isn't it an obvious dbl? Agree. I would X with less too. Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I thought I had wandered into the wrong part of the forum, when I read this post... isn't this a B/I hand.. in which double is clear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Double. It's MPs so bidding is clearly right. RHO has bid the major so there is less likelihood partner will be on lead, hence no need to bid 1S as lead directing - besides, we may be able to compete in diamonds and a 1S pretty much eliminates diamonds if LHO raises to 2H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I voted double! ..without reading all the expert opinions first :) Why? I have nice support in both unbid suits, the auction is at the 1lvl, I think my partner would expect 5 if i bid 1♠, I have both so, why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 1NT. This shows longer/better diamonds. With longer/better spades I double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I thought I had wandered into the wrong part of the forum, when I read this post... isn't this a B/I hand.. in which double is clear? Whether to double with this hand should belong on the B/I forum. Whether to double with less should not be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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