Second suit or cuebid?

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Bidding avaliable suit below game as general invite in situations like 1M-3D* bergen or 1S-(2D)-2S-(3D) is standard intermidite bidding.

Josh's point is that it doesn't make sense to split hairs after a certain point. 1♠-3♦ bergen shows a 4-card limit raise. 1♠-3♣ Bergen shows a 4-card constructive (slightly worse than limit) raise. Since responder has two options here when he chooses the limit raise he is shoiwng a very narrow range of hands. It just doesnt make sense to systemically have a invitation opposite something that is already a 2-point range or less.

If the range you use is small enough that you need a slam try more then a game try then i suggest you make the range larger. As in any game try you can use it for slam try. Anyway i didnt say its obviously better to play it as a game try, i know many people dont like game tries, i only said its not an expert tool, its intermidiate tool.