Al_U_Card Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 [hv=n=skjt9hq52da94ck65&s=s653hkt84dk72c973]133|200| p - p - 1♣ - p1♥ 2♦ 2♠ p2NT p 3NT all pass [/hv] With a pick-up "expert" pard, even at imps, white vs red, I couldn't imagine his hand on that auction....but the raise to 3NT opposite a passed hand? Please tell me I will wake up soon!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 the 3N bid was consistent with the 2♠ bid: obviously he held an additional 2 Aces during the bidding, and was no doubt extremely annoyed when they disappeared on laying down his hand as dummy.... now... if the bridge demons who stole his Aces had given them to you, all would have been well :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 It's actually not the 3NT bid that was so bad, it's the 2♠ bid. This is like a reverse and shows a strong hand, and partner was obviously confused about that. You were probably trying to get out with 2NT and he thought you had an 11-count with a diamond stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 That's BBO Expert Standard bidding. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 This is why I chuckle when I see tables set to Exp+++ only. I think the +++ indicates they wont reverse on these hands. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I suppose it would be quarrelsome to ask him what he believes your proper call is over 2S. I am pretty sure 1N is not allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 And let me guess, this guy had 20 conventions listed on his profile... Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted April 4, 2007 Report Share Posted April 4, 2007 I'd probably even refuse to make a support double vs passed partner on this.... Hard to understand what this "expert" thought he was doing, I must say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I suppose it would be quarrelsome to ask him what he believes your proper call is over 2S. I am pretty sure 1N is not allowed. Pass of course, wtp. Aren't you even capable of passing a forcing bid? No expert, obviously. But you could ask him what you would have to bid with xKTxxxKxxxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Reminds me of a bidding problem at the German individual championships. LHO: 2nd league playerRHO: 1st league player MHO: Female player 3x my age without a clue White vs red:1♣ (Dbl) ? [hv=d=n&v=e&s=saxxxhqxxxdqxxcqx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] Noticing the hopeless situation if partner would declare, you respond 1NT. The auction continues badly for you: 1♣ (Dbl) 1NT (Pass)2♠ (3♦) ? You know RHO and at these colours he would have a very good hand for 3♦. Your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 That's BBO Expert Standard bidding. Peter elite expert standard bidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 This is why I chuckle when I see tables set to Exp+++ only. I think the +++ indicates they wont reverse on these hands. :P additionally the +++ means that they share their wellfound bridgeknowledge as a commentator of vuegraphmatches, outch...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 additionally the +++ means that they share their wellfound bridgeknowledge as a commentator of vuegraphmatches, outch...... Luckily that's not true if the table description is said to EXPERT+++ ONLY!!! The three pluses only count in the personal profile. However, multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind.(Reaper man - Pratchett) BTW pass was a way to get a worse score than me :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Reminds me of a bidding problem at the German individual championships. LHO: 2nd league playerRHO: 1st league player MHO: Old lady White vs red:1♣ (Dbl) ? [hv=d=n&v=e&s=saxxxhqxxxdqxxcqx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] Noticing the hopeless situation if partner would declare, you respond 1NT. The auction continues badly for you: 1♣ (Dbl) 1NT (Pass)2♠ (3♦) ? You know RHO and at these colours he would have a very good hand for 3♦. Your bid? I am used to be endplayed in the bidding kinda often, there is no answer to this, it is just random and the bame will all go to you whatever you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Reminds me of a bidding problem at the German individual championships. LHO: 2nd league playerRHO: 1st league player MHO: Old lady White vs red:1♣ (Dbl) ? [hv=d=n&v=e&s=saxxxhqxxxdqxxcqx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] Noticing the hopeless situation if partner would declare, you respond 1NT. The auction continues badly for you: 1♣ (Dbl) 1NT (Pass)2♠ (3♦) ? You know RHO and at these colours he would have a very good hand for 3♦. Your bid? What's wrong with an old lady? If you trust you partner you bid 4♠, if you don't (but you do trust RHO) you pass. You could bid 3♠ as a compromise. I must have missed something. To me it doesn't look like a major problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I don't mind the hijacking of my thread, as long as there is a partner to castigate......but "old lady" is just too pejorative.....try to be a little more PC.. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Okay, changed to "female player 3 times my age without a clue". The "problem" is that you have 10 HCP and RHO, the best player at the table, promised 17, leaving only 13 for dear partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Okay, changed to "female player 3 times my age without a clue". brilliant :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted April 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Perhaps female is not necessary (since she was 3x your age...unless you like raisins.....omg! did I say that?) btw, is RHO good enough to psyche on a hand that wanted to pre-empt with 8 ♦ and no outside stoppers? I would always trust my partner and bid accordingly...so I would not try 4♦ but just bid a nice 4♠ ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Perhaps female is not necessary (since she was 3x your age...unless you like raisins.....omg! did I say that?) I suddenly realize how the famous script error happened that turned those "72 raisins" into "72 virgins": Soldier: What award do I get if I blow myself up in a Jewish temple?Mohamed: Let me see .... do you like raisins?Soldier: Not a problem, as long as they are virgins .... HAHAHA!Mohamed: (ROFLMAO) That's a deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 This is the reason I have myself marked as "advanced" - bidding of such subtlety is beyond my understanding. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Also the reason of why I put myself world class, I should had changed it years ago, but I am too lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Distrusting partner at the right moment is crucial in an individual tournament. I bid 3♠ which was correct. Although 4♠ could be made (and should be made on the auction) not by this partner otherwise I would not have tried 1NT. Partner had a 5 - 5 black 2-suiter and less than a minimum opener (NINE HCp, okay nice ones but still...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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