Trumpace Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 BBO online. LHO bids 1H, partner overcalls 4NT and RHO passes. To you. What is 4NT? Blackwood? Minors? What? Is there any obvious/standard treatment in "SAYC"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 4NT should be an extreme two-suiter. Usually the minors, but possibly may be a minor/major if he/she expected the bidding to reach the 5 level due to the extreme shape of their hand. Of course, what 4NT means in your partnership depends on your partnership agreement.... but with a random person on BBO, i'd take it to be a two-suiter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 No, 4N is definitely for the minors. Its not in a cramped auction so it isnt 2 places to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 BBO online. LHO bids 1H, partner overcalls 4NT and RHO passes. To you. What is 4NT? Blackwood? Minors? What? Is there any obvious/standard treatment in "SAYC"? Zia in the Bermuda Bowl and equivalent events has played 4nt is always 100% blackwood...That is playable with agreement no matter what anyone says. This was with a young Paki team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Such bids are so infrequent that they have no significant effect on the final result of any tournament. If winning players play something unplayable here, no one would notice. That said, anything but an extreme 2-suiter in the minors would be a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 I'd more than mildly surprised if my partner didn't have a big minor two suiter when bidding 4NT here. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 4NT is for the minors imo, I used this bid a few weeks ago in the exact same auction :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhais Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 :rolleyes: if it is for minors pd had abid of 2nt bypassing this bid he is bidding 4nt therefore i take it as ace asking blackwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 I'd more than mildly surprised if my partner didn't have a big minor two suiter when bidding 4NT here. :rolleyes: Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Minors, 6-6 usually, not strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 Unless agreed to otherwise, this is for the minors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 blackwood is teh plague!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 blackwood is teh plague!! A virulent virus indeed. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 4NT should be an extreme two-suiter. Usually the minors, but possibly may be a minor/major if he/she expected the bidding to reach the 5 level due to the extreme shape of their hand. Of course, what 4NT means in your partnership depends on your partnership agreement.... but with a random person on BBO, i'd take it to be a two-suiter. It can never be major/minor after a 1H opening. You can bid 4H instead to show spades plus a minor. I seriously doubt anyone above a beginner level (Zia included) would currently treat this as anything other than minors. You did say a young Paki team, Mike....how long ago was that? Zia isn't exactly a spring chicken anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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