navit Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 I know that if we play jacoby transfers after N the bidding is 1 NT pass 2 H OR 2 D PASS 2S OR 2H What happens if the 3 seater overcalls? How is the transfer completed? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Let's first say that the bidding goes 1NT-p-2D-(Dbl)-?? Without discussion I would assume that completing the transfer shows 3-card support, passing denies that. Redouble is a suggestion to play 2DXX. You can play superaccepts as usual. There are other more complicated agreements possible but this one is most standard. Now let's say it goes 1NT-p-2D-(2S). To complete the transfer, opener would have to go to the 3-level. Responder could have a 0-count, so opener shouldn't do this on many hands with 3-card support, and certainly never without 3-card support. I play the double as penalty here, and I would assume this without discussion. But you'd better have a lot of tricks in your hand, don't count on partner to help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Usually 1NT-Pass-2♦-Bid-3♥ should show four-card support. This probably shouldn't show a maximum hand -- it's basically a "law of total tricks" competitive bid on the guaranteed nine-card fit. If you have bids available you can use these as super-accepts (for example 1NT-Pass-2♦-2♠-2NT/3♣/3♦). In any case it's never right to bid without a fit (except perhaps to make a rare penalty double keeping in mind partner may have nothing). One mistake I see frequently is to bid 2NT "natural" without a fit (1NT-Pass-2♦-Pass-2NT or 1NT-Pass-2♦-2♠-2NT) -- partner could have a zero-count for the transfer and you don't want to play 2NT opposite that! Another useful rule is the meaning of double. If opener passes and responder doubles (1NT-Pass-2♦-3♣-Pass-Pass-Double) then this simply shows values and denies freak shape (usually not 5-5 in two suits, not 6+ cards in the suit transferred to). Usually opener will leave this in if holding doubleton in the suit transferred to, or with a strong holding in the overcaller's suit. Otherwise opener can complete the transfer (now at the three or four level) with three-card support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 3 trumps with a nice hand should be possible I think, ie xx KJx AKQxx Kxx after 1N p 2D 2S, I would bid 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Another key feature of Justin's hand is that his ♠ are short and weak, so he doesn't want to defend 2♠. Swap the ♠ and ♣ and I suspect he wouldn't be so keen on bidding 3♥ (I suspect he'd do it anyway, but he wouldn't be as sure about it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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