Fluffy Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 did this 10-3 happen on BBO? I didn't expect to see this distribution ever, but I kibitzed a 10-3 (fit between 2 partners, not a hand) yesterday, 2 in a day is too much a coincidence IMO. The tabe I kibitzed let the opponents make 6♠X vulnerale after a ruf&discard lead, with 10 card suit you better play the hand so 6♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Noble, wouldnt your LHO have tried 7C over a 6S opening? Pass might work, but I cant see how its better than 1S. 1D is an interesting approach, and i might have tried that when I first started the game. I dont mind masterminding if I was convinced that i could get the necessary information at my next turn. I can tell you partners do not like being taken out of the loop. For the 1S bidders - how much relevant information will you get here? Its very possible the opponents have a freak as well, and the bidding will be at the 4 level anyway when I act again. To me the best reason for 1S is that I might attract a double when I 'sacrifice' later in the bidding. Sometimes walking the dog works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 To me opening this 6 is almost an insult to ones self, like saying I have so little confidence in my ability to try and find out what I need to know that I will turn the hand into a giant roulette spin and pray. Not for me. Did you note the conditions of contest? You're playing with a random "expert" in an untested partnership. At the table, partner dredged out a 2♦ bid with six Diamonds to the JT which certainly didn't help with that all critical hand evaluation. I readily admit: I suspect that I'd open 6♠ even in a regular partnership. For what its worth, I have LOTS of toys that can be used to explore slams with a regular partner. However, this isn't the hand to trot them out. (While I was originally leaning towards a 4♠ opening, looking at a bunch of hands convinced me that 6♠ has too many ways to pay off. I dealt a small small - 100 hands - and manually inspected them. The slam looks to be 50% against best defense.Thrown in a few hands like the following [hv=n=s2hakt74d82caj843&w=sk3hq8532daqjcq52&e=shj96dt7653ckt976&s=saqjt987654hdk94c]399|300|[/hv] Which technically should only make 4 but in practice will probably make 6 and the slam starts looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 ???? In practice will probably make?!?!?! I hope you are on lead against me sometime! Trivia question. RHO opens 6♠ and you hold an ace, a sure trump trick, and anything else you want. What do you lead and why? Trivia question 2: How is it possible, being as double dummy as you want, to hold the above construction to 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Trivia question 2: How is it possible, being as double dummy as you want, to hold the above construction to 4? Easy. RHO leads his spade void out of turn, accepted by partner. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Trivia question 2: How is it possible, being as double dummy as you want, to hold the above construction to 4? Sorry, makes five Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 ???? In practice will probably make?!?!?! I hope you are on lead against me sometime! Trivia question. RHO opens 6♠ and you hold an ace, a sure trump trick, and anything else you want. What do you lead and why? Trivia question 2: How is it possible, being as double dummy as you want, to hold the above construction to 4? TQ1. It depends on my side suit length. If I have 3 cards in the offsuits, I'll probably lead my ace. If I'm 5-1 in side suits, I'll lead an off suit. TQ2. How about 9 tricks? 1. Club lead ruffed. 2. Diamond to Q losing3. Club lead ruffed. 4. Diamond to A losing. 5. Club lead ruffed. 6. Diamond, ruffed by the baby trump. 7. Something ruffed in hand. 8. Concede trick to KS. (or did you mean Richard's layout? - I can't see how, but I get close with the Q♦)By the way in the original layout, defending 6♠ is pretty tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 5♠ for me. I'm aggressive but 6♠ rates not to make and I don't see why opps should be making 6-something. So 5♠ is the optimal bid for me. 5♠ for me shows 11 playing tricks with 2 trump losers. Similar at the 6 level with just the one. Perhaps in ♣ that is not so sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 5♠ for me. I'm aggressive but 6♠ rates not to make and I don't see why opps should be making 6-something. So 5♠ is the optimal bid for me. 5♠ for me shows 11 playing tricks with 2 trump losers. Similar at the 6 level with just the one. Perhaps in ♣ that is not so sensible. Are we going to start this again? 5♠ shows whatever you want it to show and besides the pree hand is far more frequent than an 11 tricks hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Are we going to start this again? 5♠ shows whatever you want it to show and besides the pree hand is far more frequent than an 11 tricks hand. Missed the previous chat. I am unconvinced by an argument that defining your 5♠+ openers to maximise their frequency is necessarily winning tactics, but if that has already been thrashed out then fine. And anyway, I quite agree that it shows "whatever you want it to show", which is why I prefixed my post with "for me ...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I'd open 1S. (Josh, play on my team next time?) Trivia question 2 seems tough, a trump lead wouldn't work as declarer cashes 10 spades before exiting with a low diamond. I think I know the answer to question 1 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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