42 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=saqxhaj7xxdaqxxca]133|100|Scoring: IMPpass (1♠) DBL (pass)2♦ (pass) ?[/hv] What are your thoughts and hopes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Hmm, that ♥7 is a real bugger. Don't know what to do, now :)I want to force. I know partner could be flat broke but also he might not raise a game try when it is right. 2♥ is strong but NF for me, and 3♥ overstates the Hearts, so it is down to some number of NT. I went for 3, and hope I don't get a ♣ lead. I expect the majority vote will be 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I would bid 2S. You need pretty much nothing for game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted March 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Justin, what do you expect partner to bid after 2♠? NT is out, he won't bid 3 cards of ♥, so the most likely bid will be 3♣ or 3♦, or? And then? Going for ♥s then? Raise ♦s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Who knows what's right, so I bid 5D. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Justin, what do you expect partner to bid after 2♠? NT is out, he won't bid 3 cards of ♥, so the most likely bid will be 3♣ or 3♦, or? And then? Going for ♥s then? Raise ♦s? He can bid whatever, I will probably end up in 5D but we might end up in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Hmm, that ♥7 is a real bugger. Don't know what to do, now :) Why is 7♥ significant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=saqxhaj7xxdaqxxca]133|100|Scoring: IMPpass (1♠) DBL (pass)2♦ (pass) ?[/hv] What are your thoughts and hopes? 2s no problem yet. I may very well miss slam here, as usual after rho opens at one level in second seat. If partner opens on junk in first seat even more likely to miss slam. If I x and then cue and then bid a new suit at 3 level, I think this shows more than a minumum hand. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I am bidding game for sure, question is wich one. 2♥ is not forcing and 2♠-3♦-3♥ will get probably above 3NT. I think a practical 3NT is in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 There is no need to rush to game. So 2 Spade is it. If Pd will bid something strong like a jump or 3 Spade, I am in Slam within nanoseconds.Of course more likely he will bid something weak. If this bid is 3 Club, I will show my support with 3 Diamond. If he bids 3 Diamonds himself I would bid 3 NT and hope that he gets the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted March 24, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=b&n=s109xhdj987xxc9xxx&s=saqxhaj7xxdaqxxca]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Lead: ♠8. After a long thought I chickenlike decided to bid 2♥ (my second choice would have been 2♠, third choice 3NT) which became the final contract. Due to a bad defence I made the contract :lol: The ♦K was a singleton and therefore the slam in ♦ was cold, also immediately analyzed by opps.I knew that my bid was nonforcing, but with such a weak 6card ♦-suit I would have been bidding 3♦ with the N hand because it is completely worthless in a ♥-contract, imo. Hit me, please ;) Would anyone bid the ♦-slam?? I think it isn't biddable, but who am I? @Jillybean: I only mentioned the ♥7 to underline the bad quality of the ♥-suit. And I like 7s, not as much as 42s, but still... Best is ♦7 and to make the last trick with it for a beer or 2 :) :-* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 Do you still get a beer if the Diamond 7 is in the trump suit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 2S then if partner repeats 3D, Bw then 5NT to show all A and suggest DKxxxxx to grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 2S then if partner repeats 3D, Bw then 5NT to show all A and suggest DKxxxxx to grand. So you want to force to slam vs Txxx xx Txxxx Qx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 So far not much problem - 2S. The harder part comes after this. A good area to have discussed before it comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dodgy Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Do you still get a beer if the Diamond 7 is in the trump suit? In Australia you do B) 2♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhais Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 B) i think 2h is forcing for 1 round i nave dbld first & now bidding my suit inviting pd 2 describe hand further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 OT: Making the last trick with ♦7 in the trump suit is worth 2 beers B) Back to this hand:I wonder which contract would be reached when it could be opened in first seat. Does anyone open 2♣??I think I would open 2NT, but then it is not clear how the bidding proceeds, since 3♣ ist (puppet-)stayman. Will partner bid game with his 6th ♦J? Yes, Winston, I saw also that we will have some problems after 2♠ where the strong hand is still undescribed according to distribution. But it seems that I am very lonely with my pessimistic view... And as the cards lie, the optimists are right :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42 Posted March 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 (edited) just deleted the double posting... Edited March 25, 2007 by 42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Hi, I voted for 4D, but anything could be right,the main problem with 2S is, that partner wonthave a sensible bid, which just leaves me guessingthe next round. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Yes, Winston, I saw also that we will have some problems after 2♠ where the strong hand is still undescribed according to distribution. But it seems that I am very lonely with my pessimistic view... And as the cards lie, the optimists are right This sequence comes up now and again so it is wise to have some type agreement in place - my personal thinking is that this double-then-cue should be considered a "request for further clarification". How to continue from there is up for grabs.2NT could be used to deny much shape or interest, but loses a natural encouraging meaning, although I think this loss not overly substantial and it leaves a rebid to show length and weakness. (2N would be a handy 'bad hand/bad shape' bid if you were forced to bid a 3-card minor.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 I would bid 2♥. There's no rule against pard having 3 hearts, is there? :) With his actual hand, pard should probably insist on diams with 3♦. Why not passing 2♥? Simple: if doubler had a really cool heart 1-suiter, he would have rebid 3♥ instead of 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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