Flame Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 You hold a 6♠-5♥ 15 hcp hand, certently offensively worth the 1♣ opening.You play relay after 1♣.Suppose you open 1♣ partner response 1NT showing a diamond suit, would you keep relaying (2♣) or you will show your hand (can you do this in your relay system).Is it better to open it 1♠ and then make a strong bid maybe 4♥ than getting into an unplesent 1♣ relay when partner show his hand which isnt what you want ? will you dare do it with 16 hcp too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Depends on the hand, HCP aren't everything... If you give me a lovely KJxxxx-KQxxx-K-K I would definitely open 1♠. However, a AKTxxx-AKJxx-xx-void is imo better opened 1♣. These are 2 extremes, so I guess you have to look at one hand at a time and make your decision. If you can reverse the relays, you should do it imo. You are a minimum hand, you probably have good playing strength and partner will be able to judge better if slam is possible or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 I can't show this shape so I'd have to relay. This is not so practical since we may allready be too high when I discover that p's honours are badly plays. Alternatively, I could show a 5-5 or 6-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Reverse relay is a fairly complicated topic. One school of thought (with which I agree with) suggests that a low level reverse relay in a game forcing auction should be used to show two or three suited hand with shortness in RR's suit. The goal is to identify a misfit ASAP and steer the contract towards 3NT. if you have one hand with 5-5 in Spades and Hearts opposite another with 5-5 in the minors, your trick taking capability is severely curtailed. Equivalently, if you have a three suiter with shortage opposite partner's long suit the value of your hand goes down a lot. Here's one simple structure that can be used after a strong club opening and a 1N response promising Diamonds. it can (easily) be modifed over a response that shows another suit 2♣ is the "normal" relay2♦ = Reverse relay, 2 suited, S+H (0-1 Diamonds)2♥ = Reverse relay, 2 suited S+C (0-1 Diamonds)2♠ = Reverse relay, 3 suited (0-1 Diamonds)2N = 4 Hearts and 5+ Clubs, 0-1 Diamonds3♣ = 5+ Hearts and 5+ Clubs, 0-1 Diamonds3♦ = 3-5-1-4 shape3♥ = 2-6-1-4 shape3♠ = 3-6-0-4 shape If you follow this advice, then you should be reversing the relay with 0-1 Diamonds. Otherwise, you relay. (Please note: Even with the explicit agreement that the Reverse Relay shows Diamond shortage, the auction is still really cramped. If you start throwing in lots of superfulous hand types - for example, you allow a reverse relay with long Diamonds or some such - ou won't have nearly enough room to figure out whats going on below a reasonable safety level. I'd strongly recommend looking at your reverse relay structure and checking how safe it actually is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted March 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Thanks everyone especially Richard, we will implement it . we are adding 7 card suit to the RR by bidding 2D and then 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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