jocdelevat Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=e&s=skj6ht7dkqjt942ca]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - 2NT Pass ? pard open 2nt 21-22 points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 This looks like a hand where asking for aces is best Mark me down for an immediate 4♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 YES, GERBER!!! SCORE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 YES, GERBER!!! SCORE. If we have 4 Aces, I would go to grand (7NT) directly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 At last! A good hand for Gerber!pity I don't play it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 3♣ followed by 4♠ is the way to ask for aces in Dutch Pubbet Stayman. Pitty that it hasn't come up for five years so partner is unlikely to remember the same version of the convension as I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 4D is slem invite for me. asking partner to cue. Over cue I bid 4NT RKC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 And if partner has two aces, you play 6NT doubled down 3? I am sure there ARE good hands for this "Gerber" convention, but much more good hands for natural bidding. Since you are short of room, let's just play 2NT - 4m as natural and slam-interest? 2NT - 4♦. We'll hear partner skip the ♥ cue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 depends what funny things u play after the 2NT opening. with some of my pds it goes 2NT - 3♠(x-fer to 3nt or STR minor) 3NT - 4♦ 4♥♠ (pos/neg for slam) and so on. in a casual partnership i like 4♦ but i am afraid that many will take it as Majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 I'm not sure how anyone thinks this can get out of hand if we simply ace-ask. Partner has 21-22 HCP's. We have 14 HCP's. That means the opponents have 4-5 HCP's. So, if we are missing an Ace, at most a Jack is also missing, making 12 tricks impossible to avoid. If we are missing a KQ together, any attack in that suit by the opponents will render one of them useless, and again 13 tricks is easy, even if partner has KQ tight in clubs. If we are missing a K-Q separated, the "worst" might be missing the K1098 in hearts, behind partner's AQJ, KQ tight in clubs from partner, and Q109 behind our KJx in spades. We still get 12 tricks without thinking, and the missing 13th is very unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 24, 2007 Report Share Posted March 24, 2007 4♦, Gerber! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 If playing Gerber: I ask. 2aces->6NT of course. Hard to imagine it failing. Suppose I find partner has three aces. I guess the question is "Do I want to be in a grand missing a king?" If that prospect scares me, I can regerber to ask for kings. If partner has two I can count thirteen tricks. With one I can sign off in 6N. Should I try for a grand missing a king? I think so. [Definitely! See "added" below] If we are missing the king of hearts or clubs but have the Queen of spades (and the other king) I can still count thirteen tricks: three spades, seven diamonds, the AK in one suit and the ace in another. So, given that partner has three aces, the grand is there if partner has both kings, one king and the queen of spades, if the finesse wins, or something else turns up. This seems like enough. Nonetheless, I ask for kings. If partner has two I bid 7NT and claim. If partner has one I bid 7D. If I need the "something else turns up", having some trumps just might help bring it about. If not playing Gerber: Beats me. I suppose I start with 3S and then bid 4D (if this is a diamond slam try). Hopefully cue bids will now lead me to the true and brilliant contract. About Gerber: When it works, it works. Ugly maybe, but like the elephant child's trunk, useful. Ken Added: My error. If we have the aces, 7NT is cold given the 21 points in partner's hand. If partner is missing a king, say the king of clubs, and also missing the spade queen, then partner has everything else. Thus we have two spades, three hearts (four actually because he has the jack as well as the queen) seven diamonds and a club. Similarly if he is missing the king of hearts and the queen of spades. So unless he is missing an ace we have thirteen tricks. No need for bidding 7D. Nice problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 gerber 7NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Why is everybody mentioning the G-word? yuck :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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