hrothgar Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 [hv=s=sa65hakq54dackqt8]133|100|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 2C Yes I know it is illegal to open 2clubs with a two suiter, esp if one of them is hearts. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Depending on my agreements after 2♣, I'll choose between 2NT and 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 1H, the risk being passed out is small,since partner will bid 1NT with 4HCP andheart support. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 1♥ is completely silly, even if it's not passed out I'll never be able to show a hand this strong, and the bidding is particularly easy after opening 2♣ (unless you play that convention I hate where 2♥ is a double negative). Anyway there is also too much risk of a passout. xxx x xxx xxxxxx is a cold slam being played at the 1 level in the wrong suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 I make the completely silly bid of 1H :) Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 I make the completely silly bid of 2C. Silliness is in the eye of the beholder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 2C, duh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 2C. How tangled can the ensuing auction get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Wrong shape for 1♥ as partner is less likely to have the spade length for a light response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 2♣. why is this a problem? Even mikeh would open it 2♣.. lol (though I'm sure he's gonna say 1♥ just to piss me off... :D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 My partner will pass 1♥ with xxx Jx xxxxx Jxx or so. It's a bidders game. So 2♣ is the obvious choice. If you open 1♥ it will be very difficult to convince your partner that you have a 3 losers hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 Even for me this is a ... 2♣ opening. I think this is the first time in a poll between 1x and 2♣ I have chosen 2♣ :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 2C for me, but this is fairly close. I certainly wouldn't criticise a 1H opening on these cards. I think that a 1H then a 3C jump shift will lead to partner trying to discourage me the entire time with his KQxxx of spades, whereas if I open 2C then he might be a bit more talkative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 While I am not in love with opening 2C that is my choice. If it went 1H all pass I would be rather sad, so I am forced here to open 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 2♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 I will (probably) suprise no one that I chose a 1♥ opening. I've never been fond of 2♣ openings with two suited hands and this one was no exception. I eschewed the 2♣ opening because I didn't like my rebid after a number of (probable) auctions. In particular, the auction 2♣ - 2♦2♥ - 3♥ gave me pause for thought. Yes, we'd find a 5-3 heart fit, but there would be no chance of ever exploring for a 4-4 club fit. In a similar vein, if partner started with any kind of positive, the auction would (probably) get terrible cramped. If partner shows spades, we're going to raise him and clubs will be lost. If partner shows a balanced hand, we're stuck with the decision whether to show hearts or look for clubs. The only 2♣ auction that I felt good about would be: 2♣ - 2♦2♥ - 2N3♣ So, I decided to make a bit of an underbid and opened 1♥. This worked out pretty well when the auction started 1♥ - 1♠3♣ - 4♣4♦ - 4♠4N - 5♣ At this point, partner had now shown me the King of Spades and the Ace of Clubs. I decided not to get real fancy and just punted 7♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 18, 2007 Report Share Posted March 18, 2007 I have some comments: After 2C-2D-2H-3H I play that a new suit is a 'natural cuebid", appreciating help there. So we might still get to clubs. Suppose you do open 1H and you survive, partner responds 1S. Now it goes 1H-1S-3C-3H-3S-4S. Will you be comfortable passing this? I don't think so. Are you willing to force to the 5-level though opposite any hand that has 5 spades? And if you do take another call, will you be able to have a sensible investigation of slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 1♥, need 24 to open 2♣ with balanced hand :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 19, 2007 Report Share Posted March 19, 2007 Late to the thread: but I would have chosen 2♣, intending to rebid 2N over a negative 2♥ response, since 3♥ by me would then be forcing and this hand doesn't justify committing to game opposite a yarborough, even tho the right yarborough makes slam (partners rarely hold the 'right' hand of any description). Playing Kokish, this could work out very well if he makes the most common response of 2♦. I get to show both suits cheaply: 2♥ pupetting to 2♠ followed by 3♣. I sympathize with 1♥, but a LTC of 3 AND 22 hcp and a rebid plan over 2♣ all combine to make it a little too little for my taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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