kgr Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=b&s=sa53h9dakj9762c95]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]1D-(2C)-DBL-(P)-?what do you bid now?(In the real bidding 1D was preceeded by 2 passes. would that make a difference?) Thanks,Koen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 2D, you will get the chance to bid again.If partner is a passed hand, you cant besure, i.e. you could try 3D. But depending on your agreements, this mayalready be forcing (to game or 4D), because the neg. X may already promise +8/9HCP. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 2D, 3D shows a different hand. You can always keep bidding diamonds, unless it goes All Pass, in which case game is unlikely. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Bridge is about tricks, not about points. My hand has 6.5 trick. Too many for a 2 Diamond rebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Indeed. 3♦ is correct, even playing a good-bad 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 "Bridge is about tricks, not about points." True, but strain matters. What does pd do when you rebid 3D and he has K10xx-Axxxx-x-Qxx or some such hand? This is a great hand if you play in diamonds, not nearly so good in NT. Make the diamond suit a major, and it's worth a jump rebid. You can insist on 4M over pd's 3NT. 5m is much dicier. Or make the DJ the DQ, and the SA the SK, and it's worth 3D - you have a running suit. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 3D for me, I want to stress my suit and hope to play 3N or even 5D. Might even reach a S game who knows, I hope 3D makes it easy for partner to bid 3N really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Indeed. 3♦ is correct, even playing a good-bad 2NT. If you play good-bad 2NT, 3D would be forcing to game,and which game do you want to play, opposite a min. neg. dbl, with no club stopper?... but I would say, that the hand is worth 2NT folowed by3D. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 3♦ for sure, partner needs so little for game. xxxx Axxx x Qxxx is on picking up the diamonds to make 3NT, and partner will pass 2♦ with even a fair amount more holding a singleton diamon. How can I bid just 2♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 1. If you play good-bad 2NT, 3D would be forcing to game,and which game do you want to play, opposite a min. neg. dbl, with no club stopper? 2. ... but I would say, that the hand is worth 2NT folowed by3D. 2. If you count only HCPs yes, it's worth only 2NT+3♦. But this hand has enough extras to warrant a 3♦ bid. 1. That depends on how you play the good-bad 2NT. Some (including me) play that the free 3♦ bid shows 15-17, but is NF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 clear 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 3♦ looks right, especially with the side Ace (QT). Heart and club stops, and a couple of diamonds give us a gin 3N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 3♦ I played a very similar hand this weekend but with a major will open another post :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 good-bad over 2♣? How many players here play that? (btw I'm in the 3♦ camp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 "Bridge is about tricks, not about points." True, but strain matters. What does pd do when you rebid 3D and he has K10xx-Axxxx-x-Qxx or some such hand? This is a great hand if you play in diamonds, not nearly so good in NT. Make the diamond suit a major, and it's worth a jump rebid. You can insist on 4M over pd's 3NT. 5m is much dicier. Or make the DJ the DQ, and the SA the SK, and it's worth 3D - you have a running suit. Peter If I had the Q of D and/or the Ace of Spade, this hand would be no big problem, nobody would think about a 2 Diamond rebid. So the question is, where is your borderline for a jump and the census was quite well diveded between the guys who prefer 2 or 3 Diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted March 13, 2007 Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 2.5 ♦, seriously. I have too much playing tricks and too little defensive values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted March 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 Thanks for the answers. I did bid 2D and the bidding ended there.We missed 3NT.I think partner had 2 aces and DQ. Probably he should have bid more as well, but if he had less (eg not DQ but Dxxx) then 3NT would also make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Interesting post, good example of how a simple 2clubs overcall after a 1d opening can cause problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Thanks for the answers. I did bid 2D and the bidding ended there.We missed 3NT.I think partner had 2 aces and DQ. Probably he should have bid more as well, but if he had less (eg not DQ but Dxxx) then 3NT would also make. I think your pd owed you a raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 2.5 ♦, seriously. I have too much playing tricks and too little defensive values. I don't think you are likely to defend after you jump to 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Interesting post, good example of how a simple 2clubs overcall after a 1d opening can cause problems. Indeed. 2/3m openers or (1m)-2/3om overcalls are the most bothersome bids for the strong side because they preempt BOTH majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 clear 3♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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