pbleighton Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 You have AQ-AQ-AKQxxx-1098 in the 4th seat, passed around to you. Pd had KJ109x-KJ8-Jx-J9x. How would you have bid this? If you open 2NT (I thought about 1D and 2C), and it goes 3H (transfer)-3S-3NT, what do you do? 3NT was the most common contract either -1, +1, or +3, depending on the lead. We were -1 when opp led 4th best from AK632 and out (the most common lead). What's your lead from this holding? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 I'd just open 3NT to give LHO a blind lead. But you may not have had that available to you. Over the 2NT auction, I'd have left it in 3NT. Not sure what I'd lead from that suit. Low is proably best as it works if partner has the Q but also works if clubs break kindly and partner has an entry before opps have 9 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 It would be very hard to reach 4♠. Need some good/lucky decisions to get there. I'd treat the hand as a 22-24 NT, so we might also have a problem stopping at game level. As to the lead: ♣3 any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 I think I would end up in 3NT or worse with any system. Even (playing something like Lawrence style, but with light openings) if it started1♠-2♦2♠-2NT3♥-3♠4♠-?it would be hard for South to pass 4♠. Playing mandatory control bids after 3♠ would work, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Hi, If you open 1D, you will have a rebid problem. If you open 2NT, you end up in 3NT. After a 2C opening, you will most likelyreach 4S, since you will discover the clubweakness. I would say, that 2NT is a slight underbid, given your strong 6 card suit. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 I'd open 2NTEnd up in 3NTGo down after the Club lead From my perspective, you got unlucky.... The opponents have 7 clubs between themThey have 8 Hearts between them It turns out that 1. Clubs broke 5-22. The player with 5 clubs to the AK was on lead3. His partner had Qx ***** happensNext board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 There is not much to say here, but that your result is normal. It is almost impossible to avoid the 3NT contract. I would not give it another second of thought, it seems normal bridge to me. No doubt the 3NT contracts making a lot of tricks were played by the other side (1D-1S-3D-3NT for instance. Having said that, I might stumble into 4♠ playing my odd version of 2over1. First, I can't open 2NT -- that would be "misiry" the way I play. So the opening bid would be 1♦. North would bid 1♠. Over 1♠, opener can not rebid2NT = as that shows 4 card spade support and a "strong" raise to 3♠ or better3♦ as that shows great diamond suit PLUS three card spade support which I don't haveThs concept of "Bridge is suits" and "support with support" drives those two treatments, and forces another convention on opener. This convention is "Cole-like" and I refer to is as NMFO for new minor forcing by opener. So I willl rebid 2♣- which is a cole-like convention showing a number of good hands (one of which can include three card support for spades). Responder will bid 2♥ here game force but does not show hearts. Opener will rebid 3♦ = great one suiter, no three card spade support (else 3♦ round earlier). 3♥ shows values in hearts, and 3♠ = spade values. Now both partners know that clubs are wide open. 4♠ becomes, well, the final contact. Howeer, truth be told, over 2♥ opener has another option. He can bid 2/3NT in which case that 3NT is the final contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 After a 2C opening, you will most likelyreach 4S, since you will discover the clubweakness. What auction are you envisioning? After a strong 2♣ opening and a 3♦ rebid, you have no space to look for stoppers. After a strong 2♣ opening and some form of NT rebid you're right back where you started from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 This is a no-brainer 4th seat 3NT opening for me :) Oh, and pard should have opened a 9-11 1NT :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 Unless your opponents help you with a club overcall, I would expect 90% of all pairs to reach 3N. Within the 10% that don't, I would expect a few would overreach to a slam, and a few incompetent pairs would stop in 4 of a minor, along with those that end up in 4♠. Even then, you are still making 3N when clubs are 4-3 (62%), when they are 5-2 or 6-1 (and block), you are in good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 After a 2C opening, you will most likelyreach 4S, since you will discover the clubweakness. What auction are you envisioning? After a strong 2♣ opening and a 3♦ rebid, you have no space to look for stoppers. After a strong 2♣ opening and some form of NT rebid you're right back where you started from. Hi, I was thinking about Pass - 2C2S(1) - 3D(2)3H(3) - 4S(4) (1) the spade suit can heartly be better(2) 2NT is certainly an option after the pos. response, but 3D is also not out of this world(3) values(4) what else (?), even knowing about the 5-2 fit With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 I think it is barely possible on a good day to reach the top spot via: 1D-1S3C-3D3H-3S4S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 I think it is barely possible on a good day to reach the top spot via: 1D-1S3C-3D3H-3S4S erm, which hands are you bidding here?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 P=1D1S=3C? Not sure what the correct rebid over 3 clubs is, any opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 10, 2007 Report Share Posted March 10, 2007 I think it is barely possible on a good day to reach the top spot via: 1D-1S3C-3D3H-3S4S erm, which hands are you bidding here?!?! Its OK Hannie, he has 15 cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 I might open 1♦, but then I'll rebid 2NT forcing and end up on 3NT anyway. only way to avoid IMO is: 2♣-2♠3♠-4♥4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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