ArcLight Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=shaqt54daq7cq9865]133|100|Scoring: IMPPard deals and passesp - p - 1H - (1S)2H - p - ? Pard has 3 trumps. You use Bergen Raises, so pard does not have 4 trumps.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 3c btw I think 3h is much better used as sign off to play and not invite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 As much as I like this hand, RHO didn't raise spades. Therefore, its possible pard has some duplication there. I used to blast into game on hands like this, because I have "5 losers", but I kept getting dummies with ♣xxx. I don't really like HSGT's, but it seems perfect for this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 You use Bergen Raises, so pard does not have 4 trumps. I can think of all sorts of hands that have 4 trumps that would bid 2♥, even with Bergen raises. If I'm playing 'garbage' raises, I'd consider a pass...way too likely to be wastage, and I don't like the points being to my left. Otherwise, looks perfect for help suit game try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=b&s=shaqt54daq7cq9865]133|100|Scoring: IMPPard deals and passesp - p - 1H - (1S)2H - p - ? Pard has 3 trumps. You use Bergen Raises, so pard does not have 4 trumps.[/hv] Bergen raises (as commonly defined) do not apply in competitive auction.I've certainly never seen Bergen advocate using them in this way. There are a variety of treatments where a raise to 3♣ would promise 4 card Hearts support, however, these are typically some species of fit jump that show Club length and Heart length. I like the 3♣ bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 I wish I could bring myself to pass, and at mps, I would. However, we are at imps and red so I have to make a move. I am a big fan of just bidding game if a random decent raise will give us play, but that is not the case here. So I will haul out science via 3♣. BTW, and irrelevant to my answer, I truly do not like Bergen in competition and like it even less by a passed hand, competitive or not. Fit showing jumps are much more useful, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 3♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walddk Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 3♣. A vulnerable game at IMPs is too good to miss. Game will obviously depend on what partner has in clubs. He is likely to have a fistful of spades (no raise), so his shape is most likely 5323 or 5332. On a bad day 3♥ is too high (♠KQ or KJ) and repeated trump leads, on a normal day it's not unreasonable to hope for 9 tricks, and on a good day like today he has the values I need for game to make. Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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