pclayton Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 1. Matchpoints, unit (large club) game. ♠AJT, ♥6x, ♦AQxx, ♣KJxx. 1♥ on your right (dealer). You double, pass on left, 1N by pard, pass. Do you boost or not? 2. Same event. Well know player on your right playing with his wife. ♠A, ♥AQ7xx, ♦xx, ♣K9xxx. You are white and the opps are red. Pard opens 1♦, 1♥ by you and LHO doubles. Pard bids 2♦ (tending to deny 3 hearts). and RHO bids 2♠. Now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 1: conservative 2NT, assuming this 1NT is (8)9-11. Pushy 2NT assuming it's 6-10.2: lebensohl 2NT should apply here (what else could it be?), so 3♣ to GF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 1) Yes I'd raise to 2N, but my idea of a 1N bid is probably a bit sounder than most (good 7(if stuck) to average 11). My cards are well placed, yada yada. 2) 3C natural and forcing, no problem yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 2) I agree that 3clubs is extra, given good/bad 2nt. But is it really one round forcing or even game forcing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 to me a new suit at the 3 level is forcing (im not assuming good/bad or leb since its not specified..), perhaps this is not the modern way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 1. I pass. Pluses are nice, and I really don't have a source of tricks: I view invitations as asking partner to accept unless he has a minimum, rather than to reject unless he has a maximum. On this hand, I'd like to change my approach, but.... 2. 3♣. No reason, as far as I can see, for assuming lebensohl applies and indeed I'd prefer to have a natural bid here. And a change of suit is a one-round force, I think. So 3♣ it is, but of course I ain't telling what I bid over 3♦....please don't ask....ok, I confess; 3♠.... buck passing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 1) Yes I'd raise to 2N, but my idea of a 1N bid is probably a bit sounder than most (good 7(if stuck) to average 11). My cards are well placed, yada yada. 2) 3C natural and forcing, no problem yet. same as Justin, 2N and 3C. wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 I'm with mikeh on this one. It's never made much sense to me why, if double shows an opening hand, 1NT should be so much sounder than opposite an opening bid. Yes occasionally you are stuck and have to bid a 3-card suit in response to a double, but I see no reason to extend this "problem" hand type by requiring 1NT to show a good 7 instead of something more like 5. Sure, on a good day partner has a dead max 10-count and we miss a game, but it's MPs and much more often the 2NT raise gets us to 2NT on 21-22 high. Agree that 3♣ should be forcing on the second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 "♣. No reason, as far as I can see, for assuming lebensohl applies and indeed I'd prefer to have a natural bid here. And a change of suit is a one-round force, I think. So 3♣ it is, but of course I ain't telling what I bid over 3♦....please don't ask....ok, I confess; 3♠.... buck passing " Why should 2nt be natural, do we really want to compete in NT on this type of auction? Again just asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 1) Even though 1NT is constructive, about 8-10, I really don't have a source of tricks here. Pass as it is MPs. Definitely invite at Imps.2) 3C forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Why should 2nt be natural, do we really want to compete in NT on this type of auction? Again just asking. There is a game bonus for making 3N. There is no game bonus for making 4♦. Other questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 1. Pass. This is matchpoints and partner will bid 1NT with the slightest excuse. The vulnerability is not given but I suppose I might consider a raise at red (i.e., red vs white) but even then I'd pass. 2. 3♣ seems normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 2NT because I see a source of tricks: endplay opener many times :) 3♣ on the second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcD Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 easy pass on first one since partner would bid 2NT with 10 good points. guess it's a matter of agreement but we play 1NT 6-9, 2NT 10-11 bid game / cue bid if more on second one 3C forcing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 1. agree with mikeh (pass) 2. 3♣ wtp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 2NT because I see a source of tricks: endplay opener many times :) lol, exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted March 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 1. He held this hand and thought pass was clear at MPs. Well, he was right this time. Pard held: ♠Kxx, ♥Jxxx, ♦Kxx, ♣Qxx. Naturally, RHO led a low heart, and picked up the suit. I thought 2N was pretty obvious with these tenaces. Give me: Axx, xx, AKxx, Axxx and its a clear pass. 2. He bid 3♣ and got to a sketchy 3N. The entire hand: [hv=n=skxxxhj6dakqtxxcx&w=sqjtxht98dxcaqj8x&e=sxxxxhkxxdjxxxctx&s=sahaq7xxdxxck9xxx]399|300|[/hv] They led a spade. He cleared diamonds. LHO pitched the ♣8, ♠x, and the ♥8 (oops). Making 4 after they shifted to a low (?) club and didn't cash out the suit. When he gave me the hand, I thought double looked pretty juicy. I don't think even this declarer can get out for less than 500, and 800 looks likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 1. 2NT and I'm not afraid of going down if pard passes.2. 3♣, followed by 4♦ if they go to 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Why should 2nt be natural, do we really want to compete in NT on this type of auction? Again just asking. There is a game bonus for making 3N. There is no game bonus for making 4♦. Other questions? 2) Is game really that likely? Are we not beating 2s x alot then? Seems wanting to compete with 2nt as good/bad is much, much more frequent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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