Edmunte1 Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 My partner opened 2NT (20-22), and i passed. When the full holding proved to be [hv=n=st9876h972d93cqt2&s=sakxhaxdakxxckjxx]133|200|[/hv] my partner left telling me if i ever heard about transfers. Of course 2NT went down one when hearts proved to be 5-3. It's easy to make comments on particular cases. The important think is what's happening in most of the cases, and my opinion is you should transfer. Sometimes 3♠ will make and 2NT no, and sometimes, when partner has good fit and good controls 4♠ will make. So just passing 2NT is usually worse than transfering. And you should be content with that. Sometimes some methods work, other times not, important is the frequency of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=s432hajt64d72c653&w=st9876h972d93cqt2&e=skjhkq5dakqj4ck74&s=saq5h83dt865caj98]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - - - Pass Pass Pass 2NT Pass 3♥ Dbl 3♠ Pass Pass Pass H8 H2 HA H5 D7 DA D6 D3 SK SA S6 S2 D5 D9 D2 DK SJ SQ S7 S3 D8 C2 S4 D4 C3 C4 CA CT H3 After the hand my partner left after making a not so pleasant comment about going to the 3 level with 2 points ;) Ruffing the ♦ looks like a good move here. ..., simply ignore the comment.By the way, 2NT go down -1 as well,one looses 2 Spades, 2Hearts, 2 Clubsone diamond? (I not 100% sure, I am notgood in this kind of analysis)how much did 3S go down?Is there a fdifference? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 By the way, 2NT go down -1 as well,one looses 2 Spades, 2Hearts, 2 Clubsone diamond? (I not 100% sure, I am notgood in this kind of analysis)how much did 3S go down?Is there a fdifference? With kind regardsMarlowe It's highly unlikely that 2N will go -1. East will be able to take 8 tricks before N/S can gather all the tricks you are claiming they can get. (N/S will not be able to take 2 heart tricks). Its relatively easy for East to score 5 diamonds, 1 spade, 1 heart, and 1 club, for 8, with potential for 9 in both clubs and hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 After the hand my partner left after making a not so pleasant comment about going to the 3 level with 2 points :) Ruffing the ♦ looks like a good move here. Well, as you can see, players much better than the one that was sitting across from you (I refuse to call them, "your partner") agree that it is best to transfer out of 2N on this holding. 3S may make, it may go down, but it rates to certainly be an improvement over 2N. The hand has almost zero trick taking potential in 2N. It rates to take at least 3 tricks in spades (and possibly more). As noted, your illustrious partner should have made 3S after the defense erred at trick 1. Some good rules of thumb to remember: Anybody who misplays this badly and then attempts to provide bidding lessons can kiss my @#$. Anyone who leaves in a huff is frequently attempting to escape before you realize or criticize their errors. New partners currently are a dime a dozen. Next week, they may even be on sale.Good ones, however, may cost extra. The eject button never loses an arguement. Neither does the enemy button. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 My partner opened 2NT (20-22), and i passed. When the full holding proved to be [hv=n=st9876h972d93cqt2&s=sakxhaxdakxxckjxx]133|200|[/hv] my partner left telling me if i ever heard about transfers. Of course 2NT went down one when hearts proved to be 5-3. It's easy to make comments on particular cases. The important think is what's happening in most of the cases, and my opinion is you should transfer. Sometimes 3♠ will make and 2NT no, and sometimes, when partner has good fit and good controls 4♠ will make. So just passing 2NT is usually worse than transfering. And you should be content with that. Sometimes some methods work, other times not, important is the frequency of success. I don't understand how 2NT failed. Even on a Heart lead at trick 1 and 5-3 Heart break they just take 4 Heart tricks and the Ace of Clubs. Total 5 tricks. You take 3 Club tricks, 2 Diamond tricks, 1 Heart trick and 2 Spade tricks. Total 8. If Hearts were 6-2 and they find the Heart lead and the Ace of Clubs is with the long Hearts, then you go down, and I rate it unlucky. But then a bad Spade break may scupper you in 3S, perhaps. Not that I am saying that it is right to pass 2N, nor that this hand is proof one way or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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