Speed of unclocked tourneys

[mr1303]

I'm currently playing in the Precision tourney, in a 16 board unclocked event. I've been here for 2 hours, and I'm still haven't finished the 12th board. I know the idea of unclocked matches is to allow everyone to take the time, but I think this is going too far. How does everyone else feel about the speed of unclocked events?

[hotShot]

You are right, the speed of some players in unclocked events is annoying.

 

But the problem is, the regular time is 8 minutes per board.

 

12*8=96 min a little over 1.5 hours,

if you give 10 minutes you got 2 hours.

 

You need 2 or 3 tables to finish so that you can avoid playing the same opps all over again. So the tourney moves with the slowest tables.

 

To speed up the process, the first groups of tables can play on, but the result is, that the slowest player gather at the same group of tables. Resulting in the fact that you can finish another tourney prior to getting your result in the first one.

 

So it seems a clocked tourney might be the solution, but in a clocked tournay you wait every round until the last table has finished (or the time ran down). You can't go faster than that.

 

So you can wait during the tourney or at the end of it.

Of cause you can restrict the time to 6 min/board i tried that once. Seems that the average bridgeplayer does not read the tourney description and the TD gets hundreds of messages to ajust score, that this kind of tourney is insane and has to deal with actions that result in excluding the player from future tourneys.

 

But since most precision bidders need many rounds of bidding, they are famous for beeing slow. Better select a different tourney! ;D

 

have a nice day

hotShot

[csdenmark]

Yes - these precision tourney's are promotional/invitional tourney's aimed to help those interested to take a closer look on precision systems/versions to see if that kind of bridge is interesting to them.

 

Another objective of the tourney's is to help those who want to be better to defend against that kind of systems. I would like to see that all non-precision pairs always played against a precision pair. The BBO format right now dont support that - and therefore some will instead meet polish club pairs. Most need experience with that too I think.

 

In tournament description you are informed of the set up. 16 boards - 4 rounds - unclocked - approx. 2 hours. The first pairs normally finish after 1 1/2 hour and the last pair after 2 1/2 hour. Today 2 hours 38 minutes.

 

Bridge is a thinking game - and all have the right to take the time they need. Connection problems and missing substitutes also counts here. You may have noticed I have disabled the black blinking clock by setting 15 minutes for each board.

 

Those playing quickly are not affected of those playing slowly. Therefore the unclocked format is very flexible I think!

 

I know some of the quick ones want to see the result. I am unable to process the result until the end. In tourney you are informed of this:

 

[tt]This tourney is heading for the end. Hope you enjoyed our hosting. Review of your hands: http://www.bridgebase.com/myhands – Scoring and ranking to be viewed on BBO for approx. ½ hour and for 1 week: http://groups.msn.com/BBOprecision/tourn.msnw[/tt]

 

In that way I hope all are well served!

[Rain]

I think the new version of BBO allows clocked tourney's time to change. So if host has 3.5.4 he/she can adjust and give more time to a certain board that people are having trouble finishing.

 

Is this the end of unclocked? Who knows ;) But I think having flexibility to adjust time is definitely welcome !

 

 

Rain

[keylime]

I personally like the unclocked tourneys better than clocked - it's more relaxing to the players involved. Furthermore today in Claus' event we moved pretty quickly until the final round, due to the tricky last hand that gave almost everyone fits (not the Key Lime crew, 3NT on my side, making for lots of IMPS and 2nd overall).

 

What I can NOT stand are the 7 min/hand tourneys - puts way too much pressure on the TD's AND the players. I rather have it at a rate of 8.5 minutes per hand due to connection issues, adjustments, so on. In real life, I think 7.5 minutes a hand is sufficient, but online you need one minute per hand I feel due to more variables. Also helps those pairings that have to explain a lot of things (WJ2000, Key Limers, strong diamond folks, so on).

[Gweny]

:o Sorry Dwayne

I do not agree. While certain boards do take long time to do others is no need to spend 5 min bidding.

And if you do not like 7 min per board (my favorite) tee hee then you free to play in unclock nightmares.

 

I watch dear Trtttttt host unclock one night and i ask him when he finish so i adjust fun fishy to start after he finish and he say "1 round" ok so i adjust fishy and fishy start and FINISH and he is STILL directing this unclock thing.

This is ridiculous!

 

Bridge is fun and thoughtful consideration of bdding and playing is fun but at what point do it go to painful and silly? is it reasonable to enter tournament and expect to finish in 15 min per board? i think no. in fact i think 10 min is reasonable for unclock.

[Trpltrbl]

I have hosted a lot of unclocked tourneys and never had it go over timelimit by very much. Maybe I have been lucky and not have certain players who are slow.

 

Mike :ph34r:

[csdenmark]

PRECISION invitional tourney's:

 

This 16 boards tournament consists of 4 rounds each 4 boards. The tournament is unclocked which means less waiting for next round but that you mostly will meet the same opps. later. Slow play results of nothing else but late relief/bedtime.

 

Set up of this tourney is here: http://taken.to/tourney

Full information about the tourney is here:

http://groups.msn.com/BBOprecision/tourney.msnw