mikegill Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sj543ha9dkjt54c92]133|100|Scoring: MPP P 3♣ PP ?[/hv] Pick your poison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Double. Yes, if pard bids 3♥ it could be very wrong, but it doesn't have to be, and it rates to be right otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Pass. For the doublers, what do you do over 3H by partner, which I'm guessing will happen about 50% of the time? Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I am not doubling: partner will do the wrong thing far too often: whether that be 3 or 4♥, 4♣, or pass. 3♦ just feels wrong. So pass is all I have left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 pass. double is way too much of a gamble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Pass Why didn't I open this hand a weak 2♦? Then OPPS would be having my hard time :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BebopKid Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 pass any other action is purely speculative.your hand wasn't worth a bid at the 1-level, now it's suddenly worth a bid at the 3-level? The opps haven't shown a fit. Your partner knows more about your hand than you know about partner's, and partner did not take action.and you actually don't know that much about lho's hand. the opps might not be in their best contract.pass is not a dirty word dhl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 3♦ for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Pass seems obvious. X is out because of a possible 3H response and 3D is speculative and commital to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 9 HCP and a good suit is more than expected for a passed hand IMO. I'm surprised to be so lonely here, oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 Pass? With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I'd pass, but I would think about 3♦. Contextually, this seems to show diamonds and a major. Otherwise, why bid at this level and not open 1♦ or 2♦ initially? Now, if partner has 44-majors, we can play 3♠, and it seems were are more likely to go plus declaring. The double might gain when we defend, but it probably fails (or is frightening) when we bid and end up in 3♥4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 "Contextually, this seems to show diamonds and a major. Otherwise, why bid at this level and not open 1♦ or 2♦ initially?" Would you really do this with a partner if you hadn't discussed it previously? I wouldn't. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 25, 2007 Report Share Posted February 25, 2007 I would. It's about time to show other people that NV prees can be 5 cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I would have passed without hesitation. Having read the other comments, the case for bidding 3D is quite strong and I am close to accepting that I haven't thought this through properly as a MP decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I would have passed with a hesitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I would have passed with a hesitation. Lead directing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 I'd pass, but I would think about 3♦. Contextually, this seems to show diamonds and a major. Otherwise, why bid at this level and not open 1♦ or 2♦ initially? KQAxxxxxxxxxx If you do anything other than pass at your first turn you are sick, and balancing would then be clear. KJxxJxxxxxAxx Most people (I assume) would not preempt this hand. Balancing is clear though. AxxKJxJxxxxxx Perhaps you would balance with a X, but that risks playing a 4-3 major fit when you have some 9 or 10 card diamond fit. Everything is not always so black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegill Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 At the table, I went with pass, although I thought about it for a long time. Any other colors it seems like passing is completely clear to me. I wasn't really considering double - if I had bid it would have been 3D. As it turns out, double is the winner here - pard has a strong NT and would have passed your X for a sure 300 and probable 500, depending on your defense. If you bid 3D he's going to bid 3NT, which is touch and go - probably makes on normal (bad) defense. We beat 3D 2 tricks for +100 (I threw a trick), which was still about a 30% board - some tables were going minus in 3NT I presume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 26, 2007 Report Share Posted February 26, 2007 KQAxxxxxxxxxx If you do anything other than pass at your first turn you are sick, and balancing would then be clear. dood, that's an obvious 9-11 1NT opener :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 At the table, I went with pass, although I thought about it for a long time. Any other colors it seems like passing is completely clear to me. I wasn't really considering double - if I had bid it would have been 3D. As it turns out, double is the winner here - pard has a strong NT and would have passed your X for a sure 300 and probable 500, depending on your defense. If you bid 3D he's going to bid 3NT, which is touch and go - probably makes on normal (bad) defense. We beat 3D 2 tricks for +100 (I threw a trick), which was still about a 30% board - some tables were going minus in 3NT I presume. If partner has a strong NT hand, why did he not bid 3NT over 3C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 At the table, I went with pass, although I thought about it for a long time. Any other colors it seems like passing is completely clear to me. I wasn't really considering double - if I had bid it would have been 3D. As it turns out, double is the winner here - pard has a strong NT and would have passed your X for a sure 300 and probable 500, depending on your defense. If you bid 3D he's going to bid 3NT, which is touch and go - probably makes on normal (bad) defense. We beat 3D 2 tricks for +100 (I threw a trick), which was still about a 30% board - some tables were going minus in 3NT I presume. If partner has a strong NT hand, why did he not bid 3NT over 3C? the strong NT in question was QxxQJxxAQA10xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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