Stephen Tu Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sajxxxhdat8xxckxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] RHO opens 3♥, you overcall 3♠, partner bids 4♥. -What's the minimum hand for 4♥ rather than 4♠? -What do you bid here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 minimum is about a reasonable opening hand with 3+ spades (or the equivalent in support points). I would equate it to the same minimum as 1S-(3H)-4H. I would just bid 4S with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 The minimum is a hand that can envisage a slam as a possibility opposite a partner limited by the 3S overcall. I agree with justin - I would just bid 4S here. We could be missing slam, but it needs a pretty perfect hand opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 cuebid 4h...you are joking yes......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 The minimum is a hand that can envisage a slam as a possibility opposite a partner limited by the 3S overcall. I agree with justin - I would just bid 4S here. We could be missing slam, but it needs a pretty perfect hand opposite. I think this definition is too vague, at least to me. Give me a reasonable 10-count and I can probably construct a hand that would overcall 3S and makes slam. But I think that 4H shows a better hand than that. I think an opening hand that is somewhat suitable for slam is a more workable definition (though I imagine that in practice it is the same). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Hmm...I can't help but find myself bidding 5♥ here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 I'll bid 5♥ althou I don't like the like the lack of support from LHO. Am I the only one to find double as a reasonable alternative to 3♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted February 20, 2007 Report Share Posted February 20, 2007 I wouldn't double because I wouldn't feel comfortable if it was left in, and because a double implies 4♠s rather than 5 and we may miss a 5-3 fit that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted February 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 So I bid 4♠, partner thinks about making another move but then just tables♠Qxx ♥Ax ♦KJ9xx ♣Axx I thought all bids were somewhat reasonable, but 6♦ is excellent, and spades break so 6♠ is OK. Our teammates bid 5♥ over 3♠ which provoked 5♠ ... 6♠ Should someone clearly bid more or differently or is this just unlucky guessing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 No one considered a forcing 4♦ over 3♠ followed by some sort of spade raise? Why play with your hands tied behind your back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 So I bid 4♠, partner thinks about making another move but then just tables♠Qxx ♥Ax ♦KJ9xx ♣Axx I thought all bids were somewhat reasonable, but 6♦ is excellent, and spades break so 6♠ is OK. Our teammates bid 5♥ over 3♠ which provoked 5♠ ... 6♠ Should someone clearly bid more or differently or is this just unlucky guessing? No one made a clear error. Sometimes you guess wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 I'd like to bid 5♦ but I'm borderline weak and the suit is just poor. Nevertheless, I'm a bidder (sometimes too much :unsure: )... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 I am limited by my 3♠ call, since I didn't double or bid 4♠. Its certainly vague, but pard should have an opening bid and maybe a little extra. I have a 6 loser hand. My ♥ void is pretty useful, although I'd rather have a 6th trump. The 5 level may be in jeopardy, but I think there's a lot more hands that we make 6 than go down in 5. I'd try 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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