Edmunte1 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Playing in a strong team match, you're dealer, all vulnerable, and you pick ♠Qx♥---♦AKQ109xx♣AJ10x and biding goes1♦ - (3♥)-pass-(pass)? Your choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 4d...next hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temp3600 Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 5D. I don't want to risk partner misunderstadning 4N takeout and bidding 5C on xxx in clubs and x in diamonds. 4H I would think shows more in the way of spade tolerace. I have a 3 1/2 loser hand so I will bid what seems to have a reasonable play. 4D puts too much pressure on partner to find the winning raise with many weak hands, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 4♦ is plenty. Pard realizes that I've shown a great hand and will raise with an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I would probably bid 4D at the table, but thinking about it, pd may be sitting on a heart stack. I double, and pull 3S to 4D. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I would consider 4♥. I would bid 4♦. Nothing else comes close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BebopKid Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 I double, and pull 3S to 4D. Peter Ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted February 18, 2007 Report Share Posted February 18, 2007 4♦ is plenty. Pard realizes that I've shown a great hand and will raise with an excuse.I'm not sure partner over 4D can know hands like: KJx, xxx, xxx, xxxxxxx, xxxx, xx, K98x are enough to justify game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 I'd bid 5D. X seems misguided (do you really WANT partner to pass? I don't), and 4D is an underbid. In these auctions just assume partner has a little something and bid accordingly. We need very little for game here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 I think Fred once posted the following rule for auctions where you are forced to make a high-level guess, and partner has neither shown nor denied values: play him for a moderate fit and one useful card. Opposite that, we want to be in 5♦, so that's what I bid. (And this hand is a one-suiter, unless I have a lot of space to show my disparity of length.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zasanya Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Curious.I voted for 5♦ without comment.3others suggest 5♦ in their posts .Yet number of votes for 5♦ is 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork rind Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 in a pickup game i have to bid 5d. in a regular partnership i bid 4h and pull 4s or 5c to 5d. i play this the same way as a lower level x as showing a strong 1 suited hand. tom B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 I voted for 5D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 5♦. Closer to 6 than to 4. If I double, partner will play me for a 4153 (but I might as well be 4243) so he will almost certainly bid either 3♠ or pass. If he passes it rates to be bad and if he bids 4♠ it doesn't really matter. X wins if partner has six clubs and shortness in diamonds but that's too thin a gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 I voted 4♦ but I'm feeling guilty about it now! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Only two bids seems appropriate here. 5♦ and if partner will read it, 4NT where 4NT shows a minor two suiter with much better ♦'s than ♣'s. I would not double with this hand, and 4♥ leaves partner in the dark as to what your hand looks like. With such good ♦, i would probably forget 4NT on this one and just bid 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted February 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Here was the full hand:[hv=d=n&v=b&n=sqxhdakq109xxcaj10x&w=sa10xhajxdjxxcxxxx&e=sjxxxhkqxxxxxdckx&s=sk9xxh109xdxxxcqxx]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] I was south, my partener's choice was 3NT, beting for my ♥stopper. East doubled, showing a hand able to play 4♥, with some defense, me and West passed, and my p redoubled showing doubt (probably no ♥ stopper). I bid 4♦, all passed. At other table our opponents played 5♦ doubled =-750. Double dummy our opponens are cold for 5♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork rind Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 i think 3nt is a really bad bid. on 4h my partner may not know what i have till the next bid but he or she will know then.tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 5♦ here as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Playing in a strong team match, you're dealer, all vulnerable, and you pick ♠Qx♥---♦AKQ109xx♣AJ10x and biding goes1♦ - (3♥)-pass-(pass)? Your choice? and???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Playing in a strong team match, you're dealer, all vulnerable, and you pick ♠Qx♥---♦AKQ109xx♣AJ10x and biding goes1♦ - (3♥)-pass-(pass)? Your choice? and???? Bid 5♦ (like I did) and make on the nose... see three post above yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 5♦ bid what you think you can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchiu Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 5♦. Bid game first, ask questions later (c.f. 'shoot first, ask questions later'). I have rarely been able to appreciate the ♠ honor, nothing wasted in ♥, and a few small diamonds when partner bids 4♦ on this sequence. So I will refrain from putting pressure on partner to do so only when it's right. I think a 4♦ bid can be made on as little as ♠ xx♥ x♦ AQJ98xx♣ AQ10 I am a big fan of bidding 3NT without proper stoppers in several situations, but this is certainly not one of them. Although the diamond suit rates to come in for seven tricks opposite a singleton most of the time, partner will also misdjudge if they choose to sacrifice in 4♥. It only wins when they leave you in 3NT and partner provides an adequate stopper in dummy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 I voted for 3NT, bid what you think you can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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