temp3600 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 You hold AQ2 AKQ974 8 743, red vs white at Imps, in 4th seat. The bidding goes : (1♣) p (1♠) 2♥(2♠) 3♥ (4♠) ? 2♠ showed 4-card support.3♥ was competitive with 3+ hearts. What do you do now? Thank you for your time,Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 This one I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 As much as I hate it, pass is clear. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 Well, I don't pass. 5♥ it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 5♥ It's more an emotional than a rational thing, but I really like my hearts and I'd like them to become trumps. ok, on a more serious note: Partner can't bid 3♥ on a random 1345 4-count, can he? I'd like him to bring me the king of clubs, then I'm almost cold. If he really really doesn't bring me anything, then 4♠ looks good: they lose a heart and 2 spades, and pd can't give me my diamond ruff. (These are approximate calculations. my real reasons lie above) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 "Partner can't bid 3♥ on a random 1345 4-count, can he?" My partners can, and do B) Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I would expect and encourage partner's to compete based on lousy hands with a few ♥s. So I have to pass this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I would expect and encourage partner's to compete based on lousy hands with a few ♥s. So I have to pass this one. You're red, they're white. Competing with a few hearts and a lousy hand, in the long term, is a losing proposition, imo. I would not encourage partners to do this. Given that, partner must have reasonable values for the 3H raise. Since I was bidding 4H over 3H, its either X or 5H for me. Pass is not forcing, since partner doesnt know we were about to bid game. In this poll, I choose X. Could work out poorly though. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 5H seems about right. We don't need much to make it, and we may not beat them. If partner is loaded in diamonds I may regret this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 I would expect and encourage partner's to compete based on lousy hands with a few ♥s. So I have to pass this one. You're red, they're white. Competing with a few hearts and a lousy hand, in the long term, is a losing proposition, imo. I would not encourage partners to do this. Given that, partner must have reasonable values for the 3H raise. Since I was bidding 4H over 3H, its either X or 5H for me. Pass is not forcing, since partner doesnt know we were about to bid game. In this poll, I choose X. Could work out poorly though. :PI agree with everything here, except the conclusion: I bid 5♥. There is a good chance that I will get a ♠ lead, and even when I don't, I can expect partner to have some working cards. If we credit partner for a modest but reasonable high card collection, then RHO was bidding on shape... and either we catch a stiff♠ in dummy or rho has what he thinks is a double-fit, so we will maybe catch short ♣s in dummy. And since LHO rates to hold the ♠K (he has the majority of the opps' high cards on this auction), I'm not at all optimistic of beating 4♠ when 5♥ fails. Heck this could be a double game swing deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 5♥ give pard 4 trumps and ♣Ax and this probably rolls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
temp3600 Posted February 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 This was the full hand :[hv=d=w&v=n&n=sj4h10852dk10942ck9&w=st973hj3da7caqj85&e=sk865h6dqj653ct62&s=saq2hakq974d8c743]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]5♥ makes exactly and 4♠ is down a lot.But maybe more interesting than the result is East's bid of 4♠ as a preempt against the likely 4♥ coming on his left. What do you think about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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