Tola18 Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 We played WJ2005. N 1C W pass S 1H E pass, N 1NT (12-14NT) W D (unclear yet if TO or business) S 2C. In undisturbed auction is this 2C the Magister/Pro, ie a sort of NMF. But is it still Magister here after the D??I think it should be natural nonforcing, as S with a strong hand can always RD. What do you say? A) you conneiseurs of WJ2005 B ) you Standard American NMF-players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 As author of the WJ2005 FD file I must be category B. 2♣ here is natural and to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 17, 2007 Report Share Posted February 17, 2007 Natural here, but don't play Magister. Play Transfer checkback Idzdebski style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tola18 Posted February 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 OK guys. Thanks a lot for your response! B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Natural here, but don't play Magister. Play Transfer checkback Idzdebski style. I did a quick search (here and google), but came up empty. Can you describe the Idzdebski style transfer checkback? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tola18 Posted December 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I will check some me too, but the name is apparently miss-spelled - it must be Izdebski. Wladyslaw Izdebski. a wellknown polish theoretician and author (probably also a practician! :) ) It seems to be some sort of XYZ-convention. I myself dont care to sort out the variations. None of my steady partners do play this. http://www.ktb.konin.lm.pl/wj13.htm - Izdebski is reasoning in Polish. http://www.geocities.com/daniel_neill_2000/sys/WJXXI.txt Izdebski´s variation of WJ in English. Our double checkback / XYZ should be here somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 We play transfer checkback. 2♣ is a puppet to 2♦, which may be made with a weak hand wishing to sign off in ♦an invitational hand with a 5 card Majoran invitational hand with a 4 card Major and a 5+m a GF balanced hand Other bids apart from 2♣ are transfers. These occur in the following sequences: 1♣ 1M1N 1♣ 1♥1♠ 1♦ 1M1NT 1♦ 1♥1♠ Note that when opener rebids 1N his hand is limited to 12-15 points. Responder is in charge of the auction. Opener MUST rebid 2♦ after 2♣. When opener rebids 1♠, (eg 1♣ 1♥ 1♠), he will usually have 12-15 points, however he MAY have more eg 16-17 with 5+C and 4♠, or a balanced 17-23 possibly including a 5 card S suit. In these cases he cannot rebid 2♦ after the 2♣ puppet as there is too great a danger that responder will pass. He must make some other bid – see below. Sequences 1♣ 1♠1NT 2♣2♦ P Weak with 4♠ and long D 2♥ Invit with 5♠/4♥ 2♠ Invit with 5♠ 2N Slam ambitions, flat 4333 or 4432 with any other 4 card suit 3♣ GF natural fragment 5143 shape exactly 1♣ 1♠1NT 2♣2♦ 2N3♣ Relay asking for other 4 card suit Now 3♦ = ♦, 3♥ = ♥, 3♠ = ♣ NowRaises of the minor to the 4 level are minorwood 3N is a sign off, 4N is quantitative 4♣ is RKCB in ♥ NB Opener CANNOT HAVE 4♠ 1♣ 1♠1NT 2♦ Transfer to ♥. Weak or GF 2♥ Transfer to ♠, weak or I suited GF 2♠ Invit to 3N OR sign off in ♣, (as over 1N opening). Or GF with5M & 5♣ – see below 2N GF transfer to ♣ 3♣/♦/♥ Natural invitational, 5/5 3 1♣ 1♠1NT 2♦ Transfer to H. Weak or GF2♥ Opener accepts t/f, therefore must have 4♥ Now 3♥ = GF, inviting cues, others are natural fragments2♠ Opener has <4 ♥, but at least 2♠ Now 2N = GF NT oriented hand 3♣/♦ are GF natural fragments 3♥ = 5/5 GF 3♠ = 6 very good ♠ GF 1♣ 1♠1NT 2♠ Inv in NT, or weak with ♣, or GF with 5M & 5♣ 2N Min3♣ Max 1♣ 1♠1NT 2♠2N 3♣ Weak with ♣ 3♦/♥ GF with 5M and singleton in this suit 3♠ 6M and 5♣ General Rules In All Sequences: • 2♠ is equivalent to 2♠ over 1NT opening – invitational to 3N or sign off in ♣• To transfer and then bid again is a game force, with the exception of invitational hands which go via 2♣• 2♦/♥/NT are transfers and could be weak OR GF. GF shows the fragment on the next round• level new suit is natural invitational 5/5• 2♣ is either a puppet to 2♦, (weak or GF, both natural), or any unbalanced invitational hand This is effectively what I published in Australian Bridge. It is Izdebski btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Thanks, this is something like what I was envisioning, much easier that it is already laid out. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 I play wj05 with a few people. And I have no idea what the meaning of 2♣ would be after the double in any of them. I guess this sequence hasn't come up. Nobody round these parts pass 1♣ but then dbl 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Sequences 1♣ 1♠1NT 2♣2♦ P Weak with 4♠ and long D 2♥ Invit with 5♠/4♥ 2♠ Invit with 5♠ 2N Slam ambitions, flat 4333 or 4432 with any other 4 card suit 3♣ GF natural fragment 5143 shape exactlyHow do you show GF 4153? Or, do you respond 2♦ instead of 1♠ with this hand? What about 4x5x invitational? 5x5x GF? Do you have agreements about the follow-ups to 1♣-1♠; 1N-2♥; 2♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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