Action after 4th chair

[whereagles]

(I think) Whereagles is referring to:

 

p - p - p - 1♣

1♠ - 2♣ - 2♠ - p

p - 3♣ - p ?

 

Inconceviable that pard would re-evaluate and try 3N now....

Yes, that's what I meant. However, other posters think otherwise. That's just it.

[SoTired]

So your partner sees your timid bidding and bids even more aggressively to compensate. Then you have to bid even more timidly... and the cycle never ends.... Each bid being more and more wrong until neither partner knows what the other's bids actually mean.

 

One expert suggested that if they have an over-aggressive partner, that they bid aggressively, too. Even if they have to bid 8. Eventually, the partner will come down from the rafters and bid normally.

[whereagles]

1. So your partner sees your timid bidding and bids even more aggressively to compensate. Then you have to bid even more timidly... and the cycle never ends.... Each bid being more and more wrong until neither partner knows what the other's bids actually mean.

 

2. One expert suggested that if they have an over-aggressive partner, that they bid aggressively, too. Even if they have to bid 8. Eventually, the partner will come down from the rafters and bid normally.

1. On the contrary. If you bid soundly opposite an aggressive pard, he'll know you always have your bid and won't feel the need to compensate for your would-be underbids.

 

2. That's reckless. How can you expect pard to calm down if you don't do the same? Nonsense.

[inquiry]

I will add a punch here for a method I have been experimenting with here...

 

A 2NT jump bid over 1♠ shows either a very weak preemptive raise (the 0 to bad 5 type thing) of clubs or a game force club raise. 3♣ would be preemptive but promise some values. Of course, you have the same "you gave them a chance to cue-bid 3♣ on the way to 3♠ problem with this bidding method.

 

On the plus side, when you bid 3♣ directly, partner can often bid 3NT when it makes knowing you have a little something.

[pclayton]

I will add a punch here for a method I have been experimenting with here...

 

A 2NT jump bid over 1♠ shows either a very weak preemptive raise (the 0 to bad 5 type thing) of clubs or a game force club raise. 3♣ would be preemptive but promise some values. Of course, you have the same "you gave them a chance to cue-bid 3♣ on the way to 3♠ problem with this bidding method.

 

On the plus side, when you bid 3♣ directly, partner can often bid 3NT when it makes knowing you have a little something.

Well, you are a passed hand, so you can't have a GF.

 

What's a cue bid in this structure?

[inquiry]

I will add a punch here for a method I have been experimenting with here...

 

A 2NT jump bid over 1♠ shows either a very weak preemptive raise (the 0 to bad 5 type thing) of clubs or a game force club raise. 3♣ would be preemptive but promise some values. Of course, you have the same "you gave them a chance to cue-bid 3♣ on the way to 3♠ problem with this bidding method.

 

On the plus side, when you bid 3♣ directly, partner can often bid 3NT when it makes knowing you have a little something.

Well, you are a passed hand, so you can't have a GF.

 

What's a cue bid in this structure?

Invitiational raise, but can be game force raise where you don't want to bid 2NT for posititional reasons (if you want your partner to be the declearer if 3NT becomes the final contract). This later point is very importnat... only bid 2NT with a game forcing raise if you are comfortable declaring 3NT from your side.

 

Thus, after opener tries to sign off after the cue-bid, a new suit by responder lets opener know about the lack of a spade stopper.