gwnn Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 You sit in 3rd seat and bidding goes p-p-p-1♠;p-3♣*-p-4♠-a.p. *=fit jump pd leads 6 of hearts (135) and dummy tables: [hv=d=w&v=b&n=sa72h5dt742caj742&e=s5hj9843dkq8ck985]266|200|Scoring: BAM[/hv] You put in your jack, which goes down against declarer's Ace. he leads the ♣Q from his hand and tries to run it, but you take it with your King. What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 What club did partner play, and what count does it imply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 pd played ♣6, and it implies an even number (from T63 no MUD). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 So declarer has 3 or 4 hearts to the ace-king, and Qx of clubs. We'll likely need partner to have the diamond ace to beat this. I'm leading ♦K followed by ♦Q (partner won't overtake as I would lead Q-K with KQ tight). Hopefully I get the diamond count, and I might be able to make a correct decision later. Even if partner has Jxx(x) of diamonds and some good spades the diamond shift might be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 So declarer has 3 or 4 hearts to the ace-king, and Qx of clubs. We'll likely need partner to have the diamond ace to beat this. I'm leading ♦K followed by ♦Q (partner won't overtake as I would lead Q-K with KQ tight). Hopefully I get the diamond count, and I might be able to make a correct decision later. Even if partner has Jxx(x) of diamonds and some good spades the diamond shift might be right. declerar has QT of clubs... A trump back seems right to me.. of course if south has KQ sixth of spades I will regret this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 What do we know? The heart situation is probably ♥AKT or ♥AK7 in declarer's hand. The lead from ♥QT6 or ♥Q76 isn't all that attractive, especially if pard is looking at club shortness. So I place pard with an original holding of 4 hearts. Pard probably has 2 clubs, and I can't tell about the 10 spot. Its also possible pard has a stiff club and some trump, but this is unlikely, since declarer would be drawing trump instead of working on clubs with ♣ QTx at this point. Its inconceivable that declarer has the stiff ♣Q as well. So Declarer has something like a 5=3=3=2 or a 6=3=2=2. There isn't a reason to play a club; either the suit is blocked, or I have a slow stopper. My gut says a ♦ is right, but if it was, this hand probably wouldn't be posted :angry: It seems right to me to cash our diamond tricks and let declarer guess the ♠Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 [hv=d=w&v=b&n=sa72h5dt742caj742&w=sjt94hq76daj53c63&e=s5hj9843dkq8ck985&s=skq863hakt2d96cqt]399|300|Scoring: BAM[/hv] I thought this hand was interesting because while the hand was inherently down, East's decision at trick 3 still affected the outcome of the hand. At one table, East switched to trump, declarer noticed the bad trump break but nonetheless managed to discard a diamond and then the ♥T got good after West's queen drops. At the other table (albeit after 1♠(limited)-4♠, and declarer ran the T and not the Q at trick 2, but basically the same situation), East switched to a diamond, cashing another one. Now declarer needs 3-2 trumps to make no matter what so K, Q of trumps, notice the bad break, but no way to avoid -2. I wondered what made the distinction between a trump switch and a diamond switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 There's no need to switch to a trump because declarer didn't go after heart ruffs. Instead, he setup his clubs, a clear sign that he's got some discarding to do. Hence the ♦K must be the right card to play now. Awful 3♣ fit-bid, btw.. ugh ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 K of D seems like a no brainer. We hope to grab some tricks fast prior to declarer dumping a loser on C while partner is forced to ruff with a natural trump trick. I do not understand the reason for any other play really. Partner could easily hold the D ace and quite possible J empty 4thof S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 A trump back has little merit. Declarer is marked with AKxx of hearts and the entries to ruff 2 hearts so trying to prevent heart ruffs is useless once the tempo is lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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