* BART

[Yzerman]

Does anyone have the full list BART responses.  I play this with many partners, however I am not sure if we utililize the convention to its fullest.  Below is what I use;

 

* Hand types for BART 2D relay;

 

a) any hand with 5 hearts

:) any hand with 6+ diamonds (less than invite)

c) Hand with 9+ red cards, not willing to bid 2S or pass

 

1S-1N-2C-2D

 

Openers response;

 

2H = 3 hearts, minimum hand (maybe honor-x)

2S = Deny 3 hearts, minimum (may not have 6 spades)

2N = Decent opener, not 3 hearts (15-17 hcp)

3C = 5/5 in blacks (GOOD hand)

3D = Max heart raise (typically 5314 good 16 or better)

3H = (if exist)

3S = "

3N = "

4C = "

4D = "

4H = "

 

* What other hand types can BART be used for.  Since BART is a forcing bid, can this relay be used for other hand types or a temporizing bid.

[inquiry]

A different type of BART

Hi. I will address you real bart below, but first for something completely different.  You may want to extend Bart type responses to

1H - 1NT - 2C responses.....

 

Here, some standard stuff

3C = curtesy raise (none of raises below)

2N = 8+-10 balanced

2S = five clubs, 9 -10 points

2H = good 8 - 10 HCP 2 card preference

3D = yuck, 6-bad 9 HCP and 6+ Diamonds

3H = normal 3 card limit raise

2D = SORT OF DIFFERENT BART, partner bids 2H (see exception)

• Pass = weak preference, weaker than 2H immediately
  
• 2S = better 5 card raise of Clubs than immeidate 2S, implies balanced hand type
  
• 3D = better diamond hand than immediate 3D
  
• 2NT = 11-12 better than immediate 2NT
  
• 3C = 11 - 12 better than immediate 3C, 6+ clubs, longer clubs than delayed 2S, unbalanced
  

If opener had a near game force hand over 1NT, over 2D he can make a descriptive rebid... 2NT = big hand 6 card suit, think 18 points, 3H = good suit, 6+. 3C = 5-5 hand, good values.

 

Now for good old, normal BART

Now to your original question....Bart responses.... I think we are on somewhat different pages regarding BART. Your initial responses are are pretty good, although I doubt anything above 3D is really biddable in response to 2D. However, I will respond 2H on doubleton heart much more frequently than your comments suggest. I also use 2D with diamonds only with invitational hand. I use an immediate 3D as a bail out with diamonds and weaker stuff (PFA). In fact, the types of hand I can hold for using BART are much more extensive (and in some ways different) from the possible hands you suggest.

 

The type of hand I have for BART are:

• • 1. any hand with 5+ hearts (same)
    
  • 2. any hand with good two card support for spades (not mentioned), limiting the immediate 2S rebid to 6-9 pts
    
  • 3. any hand with invitational stregth and diamonds (limiting the jump to 3D to signoff hands)
    
  • 4. any hand with good 2NT rebid (limiting immediate 2NT rebid to 9-10 tops)
    
  • 5. any ahnd with good club raise (limiting immediate 3C raise to 9 points tops)
    

Ben