Free Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 During a team match, you hold:[hv=d=s&v=n&s=skxxhxxdaxcakqtxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] The auction starts:1♣ - 1♥ - Dbl - pass? What's your choice now? I've heard several arguments for 2♥ and 3♣, I'm wondering what's best (or is there an even better bid?)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I don't think 3♣ should promise less (much less) than what I've got. I'm telling p, he'll decide. It should be a much more comfortable auction if he's at the helm of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 3C is clear to me, anyway. It's what I've got. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 2♥ would show at least tolerance in the unbid suits, so my bid is 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 3C is clear to me, anyway. It's what I've got. Peter ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 In these days pard's dbl can be rather LIGHT. Better to stay low and bid 3♣. In a more conservative style, 2♥ might be better (intending to bid 3NT if pard shows a stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 2♥ is tempting, but it overstates the hand. 3♣ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I haven't discussed this, but there is a case for 3H to take on the same meaning it would after RHO opened 1H - bid 3N if you can stop hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 2♥ would show at least tolerance in the unbid suits, so my bid is 3♣. Disagree with this. 2H is forcing to game. Just about any distribution is possible. If you think your hand is worth a game force then bid 2H. If not bid 3C. Partner should be able to make this particular negative DBL on a light hand (since you don't want to get shut out when you have spades and they have hearts) so I personally don't think this hand is good enough to force to game. So 3C for me. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 While I agree with 3♣ I am fully prepared to miss game opposite ♥K and either the spade ace or the diamond king. Partner won't move with just that over 3♣, but if he has just a little more he will (as he knows that controls are essential to make 3N based on a running suit). If someone promised me that partner will reply 2N to 2♥, I would bid that and raise to game - but if he bids 3♣ over 2♥ I have no bid.Arend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 I haven't discussed this, but there is a case for 3H to take on the same meaning it would after RHO opened 1H - bid 3N if you can stop hearts. You can bid 2H followed by 3H to ask for a stopper. Even better: you can bid 2H followed by 3C to show a gameforcing hand with strong clubs, partner will very likely bid 3NT with a stopper. Partner could have a good hand here, so I think you should tell what you have instead of asking for something. I think that 3H should have the same meaning as over 1C-1S: splinter, but weaker than 4H. I would bid 3C with this hand, but it's close to 2H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 I haven't discussed this, but there is a case for 3H to take on the same meaning it would after RHO opened 1H - bid 3N if you can stop hearts. You can bid 2H followed by 3H to ask for a stopper. Even better: you can bid 2H followed by 3C to show a gameforcing hand with strong clubs, partner will very likely bid 3NT with a stopper. Partner could have a good hand here, so I think you should tell what you have instead of asking for something. I think that 3H should have the same meaning as over 1C-1S: splinter, but weaker than 4H. I would bid 3C with this hand, but it's close to 2H.Point is it is not good enough for 2H - ergo a direct 3H to emphasize the running nature of the club suit and the need for a heart stopper. It's close either way, but the problem with 3C is it is hard to bid 3N without a club card if there is only one heart stop. If played this way, 3H should probably show a better hand than this - 8 tricks and looking for a heart stop possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 3♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Point is it is not good enough for 2H - ergo a direct 3H to emphasize the running nature of the club suit and the need for a heart stopper. So it's not good enough for a GF, yet we're venturing to the 4 level without a ♥ stop (that is, if pd has no heart stop)? :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BebopKid Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I like 3♣ for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 3C looks attrractive but responder lacking a C Honour may not realise that the C are solid; 2H is clearly forcing to game but the bid I prefer with a partner on the same wavelength is 3H stopper asking (and if he bids 3S you will raise to 4 given the doubleton H)...and this has the advantage that further competition from overcaller will not leave responder in the dark as to my hand type. I realise that in US more people would presumably interpret the 3H bid as a splinter for S, but FWIW if you can get your hand type shown in a single bid in a competitive auction, your partenrship will be better placed than otherwise if the level increases dramatically... regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I make the same bid I would make if PD had been able to make a simple 1/1 response with passed opps and that is 3♣. It is OK that I am at the top of my range of playing strength for my bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Point is it is not good enough for 2H - ergo a direct 3H to emphasize the running nature of the club suit and the need for a heart stopper. So it's not good enough for a GF, yet we're venturing to the 4 level without a ♥ stop (that is, if pd has no heart stop)? :) No, I was posing the question of what 3H should mean. I said "the hand is probably not good enough." What I am speculating is whether a direct 3H here should should a running suit and an 8-trick hand. The hand shown is not a 3H bid - but if you bid 3H with a different hand, would pard take it as asking only for a heart stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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