sswarnendu Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Assuming the auction p-p-p-2♥-3♠-?.........i think 4♦ is Absolutely correct....by a passed hand...this bid can not be anything other than Fit-showing,4♥ is less descriptive,4♦ can help p a lot on a 5 level decision........pass & 4♥,both are bad choices.....but however,may be quite common choice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sswarnendu Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 An interesting question comes to my mind.....i polled for a 4♥ opening....what if RHO comes with 4♠???what's ur bid with this is a real question? .......what a pass would imply & what should a Double imply??You holdDealer: EastVul: E/WScoring: IMP ♠ Q5♥ K72♦ KJ1072♣ Q98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted February 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 What happened was this--- RHO was dealt A876432 of ♠ and opted not to pre-empt with such a bad suit first hand red vs white. He had a change of heart after the 4th seat 2♥ opener. I confess I didn't think of the 4♦ bid at the table--Rex would have. Obviously, that would have uncovered the double fit. Opps made 4♠ and truth be told, I wasn't unhappy about only being minus 170. In the other room, it went 3♠, Pass, 4♠, now 5♥!! passed out making, and we lost 12 imps. Here is the full hand:[hv=d=e&v=e&n=shaqj954dq9853ck4&w=skj109h63da64cj1063&e=sa876432h108dca752&s=sq5hk72dkj1072cq98]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] i guess the way I summarize it, any hand that can enter the 5 level opposite a passed hand and make a contract shouldn't be limiting itself on the opening bid!! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 wow another 7-4 hand that makes 4s...if we open that in first seat ;) Where are Richard and Ron when we need them :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 In the other room, it went 3♠, Pass, 4♠, now 5♥!! passed out making, and we lost 12 imps. If hearts split 3-1, they make 5 spades. If the diamonds split 2-1 with the A as part of the doubleton, 5 hearts goes down. Both of those seem to me to be over 50%. You got unlucky, but I still claim that 3♠ making 4 isn't a bad place to be. Once they bid 4♠, I think there's a good argument for 5♦, but I'm not going to sacrifice if I don't have to (I didn't expect it to make). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I am surprised that this hand is on poll and not get 100% vote for 1H opening (at any seat). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogsbreath Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Hi David.. I've seen what ypu guys open on .. hard to believe 2nd hand passed :rolleyes: Rgds Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 If hearts split 3-1, they make 5 spades. If the diamonds split 2-1 with the A as part of the doubleton, 5 hearts goes down. Both of those seem to me to be over 50%. You got unlucky, but I still claim that 3♠ making 4 isn't a bad place to be. Once they bid 4♠, I think there's a good argument for 5♦, but I'm not going to sacrifice if I don't have to (I didn't expect it to make). On the other hand... 5♦ is cold by either hand. No one has mentioned it, but isn't 4N the better call over 4♠ if it's at that level when it reaches North? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimjhim Posted February 10, 2007 Report Share Posted February 10, 2007 The presence of the diamond suit would prevent me from opening 2H with this in 4th chair. I would open 1H and hope I can find a fit in either H or D. If needing a swing in the match, I might pass -- this has merit due to the lack of Spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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