jtfanclub Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I'm trying to design a pseudo-educational game turning elements into compounds into bigger compounds. This uses only the elements Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen, and Oxygen. I'm looking for common and/or naturally occurring compounds that contain 2-9 atoms and only those four elements. So far, I have: O2 OxygenH2 HydrogenN2 NitrogenCO Carbon MonoxideO3 OzoneH2O WaterN2O Nitrous OxideHCN Hydrogen CyanideNO2 Nitrogen DioxideCO2 Carbon DioxideCH2O FormaldahydeH2O2 Hydrogen PeroxideNH3 AmmoniaCH202 Formic AcidHNO3 Nitric AcidCH4O MethanolH2CO3 Carbonic AcidN2H4 HydrazineC2H4 MethaneH4N2CO UreaC2H4O2 Acetic AcidNH4NO3 Ammonium NitrateC2H6O EthanolC3H4O2 Acrylic Acid I have deliberately left out Ethane, Methyl, and Ethyl. Anything good I'm missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 There is something out there called H30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elianna Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Methane is CH4, not C2H4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Found this online http://xray.bmc.uu.se/hicup/xform.html here's a sample for compounds starting with one carbon atom Get C1 H3 BR1 = bmm = bromomethaneGet C1 H3 HG1 1+ = hgc = methyl mercury ionGet C1 H3 HG1 1+ = mmc = methyl mercury ionGet C1 H3 N1 O2 = out = carbamic acidGet C1 H3 O1 = ome = methoxy groupGet C1 H3 O2 P1 1- = vxa = methylphosphonic acid ester groupGet C1 H3 O2 P1 = pgl = modified gly with c=o replaced by po2Get C1 H3 O3 P1 S1 2- = mmq = mercaptomethyl phosphonateGet C1 H3 O5 P1 = ppf = phosphonoformic acidGet C1 H4 N1 O5 P1 = cp = phosphoric acid mono(formamide)esterGet C1 H4 N2 = hdn = methylhydrazineGet C1 H4 N2 O1 = ure = ureaGet C1 H4 N2 O2 = nhy = n-hydroxyurea; 1-hydroxyureaGet C1 H4 N2 S1 = tou = thioureaGet C1 H4 O1 = moh = methanolGet C1 H4 O2 P1 = gb = methylphosphonic acid ester groupGet C1 H4 O2 P1 = mps = methylphosphinic acidGet C1 H4 O3 P1 = ppm = phosphonomethyl groupGet C1 H4 S1 = mee = methanethiolGet C1 H5 N1 = nme = n-methylamide; methylamineGet C1 H5 N1 O1 S1 = osm = 1-(oxidosulfanyl)methanamineGet C1 H5 N3 = gai = guanidineGet C1 H5 N3 O1 = hgu = n-hydroxyguanidineGet C1 H5 O2 P1 = som = methyl phosphinic acidGet C1 H6 O6 P2 = mdn = methylenediphosphonic acidGet C1 H7 N4 = agu = aminoguanidineGet C1 N1 1- = cyn = cyanide ion; see remark 600Get C1 N1 = cn = cyanide groupGet C1 N1 S1 1- = scn = thiocyanate ionGet C1 N1 SE1 1- = sek = selenocyanate ionGet C1 O1 = cmo = carbon monoxide; co is attached to heme iron.; co is photolyzed from heme iron.; bound carbon monoxide; bound to distal side of heme; h-bonded to proximal his (residue 120); linked to hem fGet C1 O2 = co2 = carbon dioxideGet C1 O3 2- = co3 = carbonate ion; see remark 600; carbonate -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Methane is CH4, not C2H4. oh hell, elianna i'm sorry!! happy belated birthday to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Found this online http://xray.bmc.uu.se/hicup/xform.html here's a sample for compounds starting with one carbon atom Get C1 H3 BR1 = bmm = bromomethaneGet C1 H3 HG1 1+ = hgc = methyl mercury ionGet C1 H3 HG1 1+ = mmc = methyl mercury ionGet C1 H3 N1 O2 = out = carbamic acidGet C1 H3 O1 = ome = methoxy group I'd seen stuff like this before, but it keeps catching me up. For example, carbamic acid, while it has a name, doesn't actually exist. I'm only looking for stable stuff, that either is common or natural. Thanks for catching that typo, Elianna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elianna Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Methane is CH4, not C2H4. oh hell, elianna i'm sorry!! happy belated birthday to you Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpm_bg Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 NO3, heavenly gase ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elianna Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 NO3, heavenly gase ;) Not sure what NO3 is. Nitrous Oxide (more correctly dinitrogen monoxide or N2O) is laughing gas (used in surgeries). Jtfanclub already has this. Also, there's NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), which is an air pollutant. When it heats up, it forms ditrogen tetraoxide (N2O4) which looks browner, and is one of the components of smog (if I remember 7th grade correctly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikl Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Been years since I looked at chemistry, but itsn't C4 diamond? Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Been years since I looked at chemistry, but itsn't C4 diamond? Sean No, a diamond is a macro-molecule. You need many carbon atoms before you can destinguish diamond from other forms of carbon. And C4 would be highly unstable as the covalent bonds prefer to be widely spaced appart. Maybe a tedrahedron-shaped (or diamond-shaped, lol) C4 molecule could exist in vacuum. C60 exists as a stable molecule, though. It's called buchmeisterfulerene or just fulerene. Some older textbooks call it fussballene because the atoms are aranged in the exact same way as the joints in an old-fashioned football (am=soccer) ball. Nowadays football balls are sewn in a different way, but I don't think that's the reason why the molecule changed its name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 With two Carbons it gets more complicated, for example: C2H6 = ethaneC2H4 = etheneC2H2 = ethyne H3C-CH2-OH = ethanolH2C=CH-OH = ethenolH-C_=C-OH = ehtynol I'm sure there would be systematic names for things like: N-C-OHN-C-COOHH2N-C-COHetc. but chemistry was a long time ago :) Btw is there also a mini-buckyball? C30 in dodecaeder-shape? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Btw is there also a mini-buckyball? C30 in dodecaeder-shape? Apparently not. Not sure why. Maybe it's just that nobody has invented a way of syntezising it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 It's a long time since I did any chemistry, but are your names a mix of SI and traditional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Of course since each C-atom is in 3 of the pentagons you would need 20 of them, making it C20. This DOES exist but is not very stable, apparently (pentagons sharing edges cause instability). C20H20 is stable, though (dodecahedron with Hydrogen at each corner). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Try the IUPAC website (International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry) they are the responsible body for nomenclature issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted February 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 When it heats up, it forms ditrogen tetraoxide (N2O4) which looks browner, and is one of the components of smog (if I remember 7th grade correctly). Ooh...NTO! How did I forget NTO? (N2O4, big time rocket fuel from the 50s and 60s). I also added Oxalic Acid (C2H4O2), Acryllic Acid (C3H4O2) and Propylene (C3H6), though I'm trying to stay away from the less common compounds, especially if they're just one atom away from something common. I am trying to fix all of them to Empirical formula as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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