flytoox Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 At the fourth seat you hold:S: AJ9XXXH: 9XD: JTXC: K9 LHO opened 1N (13-15). Two passes to you, do you balance or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vang Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 yes, i'll balance. i'll assume i didn't look at vulnerability since you didn't mentioned it ;-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I thought pass was clear but willing to listen and learn vs wk nt :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I don't consider this as a pure weak NT, it's more like intermediate. These are a problem from time to time, but if you use some common sense I think you can bid in 4th seat. I wouldn't recommend bidding in 2nd seat however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmunte1 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I'll definitely will balance. The main idea is when they play 1NT is almost like we play 1NT. I don't want to play 1NT with a 6 card major, maybe we don't have communication to cash spades, when 2♠ contract has much better chances of success. About the average force of our line, considering partner's double as penality (15+, tghough many players, including me, consider a 13-15 NT as a strong one) is 16-23 hcp, so it's a very good chance to receive a decent hand from partner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I guess no one thinks vul is important ...just bid..oh well listening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Vulnerability is always important, but this is a 2S bid in 2nd or 4th seat at any vul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Pard is likely to lead a red suit and that's prolly gonna cost a trick. 2♠ thus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Would you open this as weak 2?A lot of us would, so this is worth a 2♠ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 "Would you open this as weak 2?A lot of us would, so this is worth a 2♠ now." Didn't your mother teach you not to preempt a preempt :D I would bid 2S if NV, pass if vul. I've played weak/mini NT for a few years now, and have got more good scores from opps' overbidding than from their underbidding, especially when they are vulnerable. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Auto 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 "Would you open this as weak 2?A lot of us would, so this is worth a 2♠ now." Didn't your mother teach you not to preempt a preempt :) I would bid 2S if NV, pass if vul. I've played weak/mini NT for a few years now, and have got more good scores from opps' overbidding than from their underbidding, especially when they are vulnerable. Peter :)13-15 is a bit more than a preempt and the given hand is not minimum. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_U_Card Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 A principle consideration would be your methods OVER their weak (or in this case intermediate) NT openings. Since pard took no action and RHO didn't move....what are you walking into? In 1st seat, a weak 2S can wreak havoc.....in 4th it can set you up for a fall. All those holes need a lot of fillers from pard. I would tend to go quietly on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianshark Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I'll pass. Good intermediates in the short suits suggests defending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Clear 2S for me, unless Fred posts later that winners pass with this, then I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 "13-15 is a bit more than a preempt and the given hand is not minimum" Both are true, but not by much, which is why I bid NV and pass V. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 2S. Don't even need to think too hard about this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted February 5, 2007 Report Share Posted February 5, 2007 Clear 2♠. Even when defending is right, partner is unlikely to shift to spades before the post mortem. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTired Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 2S seems obvious. Is anybody going to mention that if we pass, partner is likely to get off to a disastrous heart lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 Vulnerability is always important, but this is a 2S bid in 2nd or 4th seat at any vul. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 2♠ is very clear to me with a hand that I'd open a weak 2 with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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