Winstonm Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=n&n=saj6h4dak109864ca6&s=skq75432h8763dqc4]133|200|Scoring: IMPOur auction, with opponents silent, playing 2/1 started:1D-1S3D-3S* (*forcing)[/hv] What is the best route to the good 6S contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 1♦ 1♠3♦ 3♥3♠ 4♣4♦ 4♠4NT 5♦5♥ 6♦6♠ 3♥ = a bit double dummy, but has the advantage of letting pard bid 3♠ if he has delayed support4♣, 4♦ = cues4♠ = no heart cue5♥ = have ♠Q?6♦ = yes, plus help in diams if you want to bid 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 1♦ 1♠3♦ 3♥3♠ 4♣4♦ 4♠4NT 5♦5♥ 6♦6♠ 3♥ = a bit double dummy, but has the advantage of letting pard bid 3♠ if he has delayed support4♣, 4♦ = cues4♠ = no heart cue5♥ = have ♠Q?6♦ = yes, plus help in diams if you want to bid 7Nice auction but that 3H bid????? Would you find it at the table? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Nice auction but that 3H bid????? Would you find it at the table? Not all of the time, but maybe 50% of the time :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 After 1D - 1S - 3D - 3S North has a monumentally good hand. The danger is bidding a grand... 1D - 1S3D - 3S4C - 4D 4C = cue4D = cue (the Q in the suit partner has jump rebid in together with a 7th spade is huge) Blackwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 RKC now and 6S (7S if 2+SQ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 RKC now and 6S (7S if 2+SQ)This is the route we took, but it felt a little like guesswork and rather a blunt instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keylime Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Winston, I play 1D-1M-3D as showing 3 pieces of support and six diamonds. I'm not introducing an 8 high suit at three level when it doesn't help pard. Maybe something like... 1d-1s3d-3d4c-4d4s-4ntanswer - 6S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 After 1D - 1S - 3D - 3S North has a monumentally good hand. The danger is bidding a grand... 1D - 1S3D - 3S4C - 4D 4C = cue4D = cue (the Q in the suit partner has jump rebid in together with a 7th spade is huge) BlackwoodI like this auction a lot better than ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I don't. Why can't 4♣ be a 6-4? Say.. AxxAKJTxxKxxx if you think that's a 2♣ rebid, instead of 3♣, how about.. AxxAKQJTxKxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 The easiest way is something like: 1♦ 4♠ (Who was it who said 7-4 hands should bid game?!)6♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 [hv=d=n&v=n&n=saj6h4dak109864ca6&s=skq75432h8763dqc4]133|200|Scoring: IMPOur auction, with opponents silent, playing 2/1 started:1D-1S3D-3S* (*forcing)[/hv] What is the best route to the good 6S contract? over 3s i would just rkc...btw I would be very nervous about my 3d rebid....these jump rebids in minors are such random bids but I doubt I see anything that much better...... 4h splinter over 1s would be a distant second choice I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I don't. Why can't 4♣ be a 6-4? Say.. AxxAKJTxxKxxx if you think that's a 2♣ rebid, instead of 3♣, how about.. AxxAKQJTxKxxxI am a proponent of showing both suits with 64 patterns and extra values, so with the hands you suggest I would not bid 3D. The jump rebid is such a space-killer my thinking is that it should be reserved for true 1-suited hands. Besides that, I don't think the 4-level is a place to be trying to find a fit - so to me the auction 1D-1S-3D-3S-4C doesn't make sense other than a cue bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I agree with Frances's auction. Opener's hand has become huge, and if responder is willing to cooperate (with 4D) then it's time to launch blackwood. But if partner bids 4S next then I think I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikl Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 RKCB after 3♠, there is an abundant source of tricks in ♦s, the ♠J is a huge card. Why stuff around? Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 after 3♠ opener should bid RKC his hand is worth a billion bajillon points upon finding 1+Q he bids 6♠upon finding 2+Q he bids 7♠ no further questions necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 RKCB after 3S. I wouldn't cue bid as North because I'm not going to stop if partner tries to sign off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 I don't. Why can't 4♣ be a 6-4? Say.. AxxAKJTxxKxxx if you think that's a 2♣ rebid, instead of 3♣, how about.. AxxAKQJTxKxxxI am a proponent of showing both suits with 64 patterns and extra values, so with the hands you suggest I would not bid 3D. The jump rebid is such a space-killer my thinking is that it should be reserved for true 1-suited hands. Besides that, I don't think the 4-level is a place to be trying to find a fit - so to me the auction 1D-1S-3D-3S-4C doesn't make sense other than a cue bid. You are, of course, aware that this is only your opinion and that pard might be on a different wavelength...? Not to mention that pard might be stuck after 3♠ for not having a heart stop to bid 3NT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 I don't. Why can't 4♣ be a 6-4? Say.. AxxAKJTxxKxxx if you think that's a 2♣ rebid, instead of 3♣, how about.. AxxAKQJTxKxxxI am a proponent of showing both suits with 64 patterns and extra values, so with the hands you suggest I would not bid 3D. The jump rebid is such a space-killer my thinking is that it should be reserved for true 1-suited hands. Besides that, I don't think the 4-level is a place to be trying to find a fit - so to me the auction 1D-1S-3D-3S-4C doesn't make sense other than a cue bid. You are, of course, aware that this is only your opinion and that pard might be on a different wavelength...? Not to mention that pard might be stuck after 3♠ for not having a heart stop to bid 3NT...Sure - just expressing my opinion only. :P And some hands are truly unbidable: A, xxx, AKQ10xx, Kxx1D-1S3D-3S???? Fact of the matter, anything could worik out and score all right, from pass to 4D, to 3N to 4S or even 4C. But for me, I am bidding 3N - if they beat it - well, I've gone down before so they aren't getting a virgin. ;) Besides, I have a theory here that I can always rely on not to get me in too much trouble: When I run out of scientific bids to show my hand, I make the most practical bid I can think of. In this case, 3N is the practical bid, even with the xxx in hearts because partner may hold the stop and opps may not even lead them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 Besides, I have a theory here that I can always rely on not to get me in too much trouble: When I run out of scientific bids to show my hand, I make the most practical bid I can think of. In this case, 3N is the practical bid, even with the xxx in hearts because partner may hold the stop and opps may not even lead them. There's a lot to be said for that, you know? :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted January 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Besides, I have a theory here that I can always rely on not to get me in too much trouble: When I run out of scientific bids to show my hand, I make the most practical bid I can think of. In this case, 3N is the practical bid, even with the xxx in hearts because partner may hold the stop and opps may not even lead them. There's a lot to be said for that, you know? :)I don't take credit for the idea - I got part of it from a Michael Lawrence book "Play a Team of Four with Me" - in it he describes a hand where the grand slam investigation breaks down at the five level and he advises that when you cannot know with certainty what to do then make the practical bid and sign off in small slam instead of continueing in a murky grand slam auction. The second came from my partner, who for years kept telling me what a fine player I would be if I'd only be more practical. And finally the advice of Bob Hamman - "If you need me to hold a specific card, I don't have it." B) :P :D :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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