ruotal Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Hi all ! When auctions goes : 1♦ P 1♥ P1♠ P 1NT P2♣ Does the 4th suit forcing applies or not ? Thank you. ruotal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 No. It would apply in this sequence: 1♦ P 1♥ P1♠ P 2♣ But not in the one you list. Opener is describing a 4-1-4-4 (or 4-0-5-4) hand that is minimum in the auction given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 No: 4th suit forcing is best viewed as a tool for responder, not opener. In the auction described, opener is typically 4=0=5=4 or 4=1=4=4. He 'knows' that he has at least a partial, and usually a fairly good, fit in one of the minors, unless responder is 3433 or 3523, and he doesn't want to play 1N.... he is usually WEAK, not strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Opener is limited due to the lack of a jump shift. Responder is limited to about 10 with 1N. Others will say that 1♠ is a one round force. While this is a reasonable approach, its hardly mainstream. Accordingly, opener can't 'force' to game, unless opener just bids it. As others have said, 2♣ is descriptive, and shows a 4=1=4=4 (if you open 1♦ with 4-4), 4=0=5=4 or some 4=1=5=3's. Some would say 4=0=4=5's but this isn't correct, since we have an easy rebid after a 1♣ opening (most of the time B) ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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