paulg Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Partner's 3NT overcall of a pre-empt is one of the most wide ranging bids in bridge. For example, IMPs; Love All; (3♦) - 3NT - (Pass) - ? I did notice that one Irish Camrose pair are playing:4♣ asks (4♦=16-18 flat, 4♥=19-21 flat, 4♠=22-25 flat, 4NT/5NT/6NT= based on long running suit)4♦ = Flint (puppet to 4♥), to play 4♥/4♠ without slam-interest4♥/4♠ = natural, NF, slam-tries I am trying to bolster our methods and wondered what others play? Thanks Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 We play4C asks (different responses: 4NT minimum, cue bid extra values c. 20+, suits natural)4D Flint to play anywhere - 4M or 5m - without slam interest (overcaller can break with a seriously good hand but very rare indeed)4M/5m natural NF slam try4NT invitational opposite a 'normal' 3NT bid (16-18 ish) After 3M pre-empt, the cue is also available, usually as a big 2-suiter. This isn't possible after 3m as we use 4C/4D artificial as above; you have to jump cue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 We play everything in transfer:4♣ = Stayman (trf opponent's suit)4♦ = transfer ♥4♥ = transfer ♠4♠ = transfer ♣ Easy with enough possibilities for constructive auctions at a high level imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Partner's 3NT overcall of a pre-empt is one of the most wide ranging bids in bridge. For example, IMPs; Love All; (3♦) - 3NT - (Pass) - ? I did notice that one Irish Camrose pair are playing:4♣ asks (4♦=16-18 flat, 4♥=19-21 flat, 4♠=22-25 flat, 4NT/5NT/6NT= based on long running suit)4♦ = Flint (puppet to 4♥), to play 4♥/4♠ without slam-interest4♥/4♠ = natural, NF, slam-tries I am trying to bolster our methods and wondered what others play? Thanks Paul I "played" this in one partnership. It came up in a discussion at a regional about 5 years ago. It didn't actually come up at the table. For the next three years it didn't some up once, but I think we both would have remembered it had it would have. I think its a reasonable approach, and solves a headache for a 1 in 5,000 hand type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 In the context of this auction coming up at all, responder has two problem hand-types: a) The mild-slam try type (which in this scheme bids 4M NF slam try)<_< Strong 2-suiters There isn't a good scheme I've seen that deals well with both. The 4M NF slam try comes up at the table sufficiently often that I can think of 3 occasions in the past 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Partner's 3NT overcall of a pre-empt is one of the most wide ranging bids in bridge. For example, IMPs; Love All; (3♦) - 3NT - (Pass) - ? I did notice that one Irish Camrose pair are playing:4♣ asks (4♦=16-18 flat, 4♥=19-21 flat, 4♠=22-25 flat, 4NT/5NT/6NT= based on long running suit)4♦ = Flint (puppet to 4♥), to play 4♥/4♠ without slam-interest4♥/4♠ = natural, NF, slam-tries I am trying to bolster our methods and wondered what others play? Thanks Paul Not worth the effort. Even when a 3NT overcall of a preempt does occur, most of pard's hands are clear passes. It's been over 2 yrs since I had a non-pass call in this situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dima Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Hi I play 4♣ = range asking (4NT = weakest, the lower the better, 4♦ = running suit)4♦/♥ = Transfers if possible. Sure 4♦ as Terminator is a stronger idea but imo not worth trouble. In about 3000 hands we got to use the agreement once, worked rather well. :PDima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulven Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Over the years, I haven't had much problem with this auction (as far as I can remember) then I got 2 problems on just this theme last week !!! 1) all NV/imps Jxxxx/AJxxx/T/Tx p - p - 3C - 3NT; p - ?? 2) all V/imps AT8xx/QJxx/x/Kxx 3D - 3NT - p - ? On both occasions we belonged in 4M, which leads me to believe that it's more important to cater for the possibility to find a M-fit than to invite slam. Overcalling 3NT isn't only wide-range hcp-wise but also shape-wise. Next up is devising some mechanism... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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