Guest Jlall Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 xxxx A xxxx xxxx. Partner opens 6H. Do you raise or pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Pass The only valid reason to bid 6 at once is to keep opps silent. So this is a sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 If you have an agreement as to what a 6♥ opener shows, it's clear what to do. If I'm playing a system with 2♣ or 2♦ as ace-asking, then 6♥ is pree, so pass. If neither of the above... I'd just pass 'cos people usually go berserk on good hands :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 I learned, some 30+ years ago, that the 6♥ bid asked for a raise if you held A or K of trump, While I have never seen the auction in real life (I had someone overcall my 1♥ opening with 6♣: that's the closest I've seen), I am going to raise: if we go down, he didn't have his bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 These auctions never happen to me.If all my partner wanted was the HA, he would have opened 4NT (specific ace ask). If we play that, I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 I'm passing... The most common treatment of a 6M opening is that it asks you to bid 7 with the Ace or the King of trump (just what Mike notes). In practice, this bid NEVER comes up. I'm passing and hoping that partner doesn't go down too many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 The most common treatment of a 6M opening is that it asks you to bid 7 with the Ace or the King of trump (just what Mike notes). In practice, this bid NEVER comes up. I've seen in happening once in a club game. Or rather, opener had a solid suit and was missing a SIDE king... lol. As for preemptive 6 bids, I've seen 2 already. So that's 2-to-1 on preemptive 6x :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 :) gotta raise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Believe it or not this stems from a dream I had last night. I had --- KQJTxxxx A AKJx. I opened 6H and it went 6S p p lol. ANDDDDDD we were white/red. So I saved, and it was right. Anyways... I was thinking in the shower this morning was 6H really a good bid? Wouldn't partner bid 7 with the ace? Or would he? Hence this post... I don't really know, but I do know I'd like to be able to open 6H on some hands that don't want a raise to 7 with the ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Believe it or not this stems from a dream I had last night. I had --- KQJTxxxx A AKJx. I opened 6H and it went 6S p p lol. ANDDDDDD we were white/red. So I saved, and it was right. Anyways... I was thinking in the shower this morning was 6H really a good bid? Wouldn't partner bid 7 with the ace? Or would he? Hence this post... I don't really know, but I do know I'd like to be able to open 6H on some hands that don't want a raise to 7 with the ace. When I was 20 I wasn't dreaming about bridge hands. Well maybe I did. :) I pass 6♥ and discuss what a 6♥ bid means afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Believe it or not this stems from a dream I had last night. I had --- KQJTxxxx A AKJx. I opened 6H and it went 6S p p lol. ANDDDDDD we were white/red. So I saved, and it was right. Anyways... I was thinking in the shower this morning was 6H really a good bid? Wouldn't partner bid 7 with the ace? Or would he? Hence this post... I don't really know, but I do know I'd like to be able to open 6H on some hands that don't want a raise to 7 with the ace. I prefer the more modern method where 6♥ is opened slightly preemptively but with some expectations not to get killed if doubled. Therefore opener is not interested in a raise to 7 with just an ace of trumps. Can't opener start with 2♣ and then jump to 6♥ or use some kind of exclusion (likely has a void) if needing just the ace for his grand ? .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 I was thinking in the shower this morning was 6H really a good bid? Wouldn't partner bid 7 with the ace? Or would he? If you can afford a misunderstanding, you could try that opener. However, against very strong opps, it's probably better to be cookie-cutter and open 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Believe it or not this stems from a dream I had last night. You can tell this here, but don't tell any of your friends who don't play bridge. This will be bad for your reputation! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1eyedjack Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 I was thinking in the shower this morning was 6H really a good bid? Wouldn't partner bid 7 with the ace? Or would he? If you can afford a misunderstanding, you could try that opener. However, against very strong opps, it's probably better to be cookie-cutter and open 2♣. Don't think that I agree with this. The less information that is available to a player, the greater is the lottery element of decisions taken on the basis of the available information. That is an absolute truth regardless of the quality of the player taking the decision. The better the quality of the opposition the greater is the incentive to increase the element of luck involved in his decision in proportion to skill. The slow route would appear to be to the advantage of the better defender. World class opponents are not immune to error when they have to make a decision at the 6 level on the first round of bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Hi, Pass. A trick question. First you need to answer, how trust worthyis your partner.According to Simon, you should raise, buthe said also he would not do it, since youneed complete faith in your partner, which is very rare. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: If 7H is on, I would expect to bid partnerslower, he always can ask for the Ace of trumpusing an old abused convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Believe it or not this stems from a dream I had last night. I had --- KQJTxxxx A AKJx. I opened 6H and it went 6S p p lol. ANDDDDDD we were white/red. So I saved, and it was right. Anyways... I was thinking in the shower this morning was 6H really a good bid? Wouldn't partner bid 7 with the ace? Or would he? Hence this post... I don't really know, but I do know I'd like to be able to open 6H on some hands that don't want a raise to 7 with the ace. Assuming it happens in real life, I seldomdream, ... and never about bridge, 7H is ok,since 6S may make, one option:You make only the Ace of clubs. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Passers describe a hand that does raise. What do you need AAKKK? HAxxx+void? what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Passers describe a hand that does raise. What do you need AAKKK? HAxxx+void? what? Such a hand does not exist, ... unlessI have a special agreement. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 I was thinking in the shower this morning was 6H really a good bid? Wouldn't partner bid 7 with the ace? Or would he? If you can afford a misunderstanding, you could try that opener. However, against very strong opps, it's probably better to be cookie-cutter and open 2♣. Don't think that I agree with this. The less information that is available to a player, the greater is the lottery element of decisions taken on the basis of the available information. That is an absolute truth regardless of the quality of the player taking the decision. The better the quality of the opposition the greater is the incentive to increase the element of luck involved in his decision in proportion to skill. The slow route would appear to be to the advantage of the better defender. World class opponents are not immune to error when they have to make a decision at the 6 level on the first round of bidding. Ahem... You misunderstood me. That wasn't what I was thinking about. Let me know if you want clarifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zasanya Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Believe it or not this stems from a dream I had last night. I had --- KQJTxxxx A AKJx. I opened 6H and it went 6S p p lol. ANDDDDDD we were white/red. So I saved, and it was right. Anyways... I was thinking in the shower this morning was 6H really a good bid? Wouldn't partner bid 7 with the ace? Or would he? Hence this post... I don't really know, but I do know I'd like to be able to open 6H on some hands that don't want a raise to 7 with the ace. When I was 20 I wasn't dreaming about bridge hands. Well maybe I did. :D I pass 6♥ and discuss what a 6♥ bid means afterward.Dreams of ♥ Q and no other Q. Interesting.Freud would have found it significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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