fampaaske Posted February 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 hi hrothgar 1C is NOT forcing. The system has the "C opening, which is the same pattern but forcing. Responder is welcome to pass with a stack of clubs. Sure you can invent defensive vicious methods. They would also hurt a strong club system and even a natural 1C. In fact all systems. Still most af your bids show a natural suit. What makes you think you can enter the auction without getting punished ? The problem is you could be severely punished here if the hands dont fit. What if you hit declarers suit and he can pass partners D. ? The passing strategi with stronger hands can also be dangerous. this means you are not able to bid a normal 1NT 15-17. Are you sure this is sound practice. ? The basic thing is :You are convinced that the 2-suited 1C opening is more sensitive than a natural 1club opening! I obviously disagree and think this needs to be proved! :-))) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 >What makes you think you can enter the auction without getting punished ?>>The problem is you could be severely punished here if the hands dont fit. >What if you hit declarers suit and he can pass partners D. ? I'm not claiming that I won't (occasionally) run into a buzz saw. ***** happens. I do, however, believe that your 1♣ is going to be much more vulnerable to preemption than standard methods and that (by and large) burning a buch of bidding space is the best way to deal with this type of system. You haven't shown your suits and you haven't clarifed range. I'm going to do everything that I can to make sure that you don't get a chance to start doing lower than the three level. As you note, most of the bids that I suggested are "natural" in that they promise length in the suit that I bid. This is concious and deliberate. I've (typically) prefer to make natural bids not out of any bizarre attachment to simple/natural bidding... Rather I believe that natural type preempts place a lot more pressure on the opponents. LHO needs to immediately start clarifying his hand type for fear that my partner might pass. >The passing strategy with stronger hands can also be dangerous. >This means you are not able to bid a normal 1NT 15-17. Are you sure this is >sound practice. ? Why would I want to bid an immediate 1NT with no knowledge about the suits you are showing or the stoppers that my partnership needs. I'll note in passing that I still haven't defined a meaning for PassDouble1♦1♥1♠ I suspect that I can set up a pretty reasonable constructive system using nothing more than those 5 bids. Hell, worst comes to worst, I can play MOSCITO as my overcall system... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtfanclub Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 1C 2-suited (10-21) or 3-suited (11-16)1D One suited +101H Balanced +18 or 3-suited (17-22)1S Balanced 12-141NT Balanced 15-172C Forcing with 2 suited pattern – answers basically as to the opening 1C The other 2-openers are free of choice. 2NT is open for business. I'm curious why this is superior to, say....1C: 18+ any shape.1D: Any two-suiter 11-171H: Any 3 suiter (11-17) without 4+ spades OR Balanced 15-17 without 4+ spades.1S: Any 3 suiter (11-17) with 4+ spades OR Balanced 15-17 with 4+ spades.1NT: Balanced 12-14.2C...2S. Natural, 6+ cards in suit. 11-17 5431 is 3-suited*. 5422 is balanced. Doesn't this serve the same balanced/1-suited/2-suited/3-suited purpose?What does it have trouble with that the existing system doesn't have problems with? *although I'm tempted to make the hand with 3 spades and 1 heart two-suited for the minors, and with 3 spades and 4+ hearts 'balanced'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fampaaske Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Hi Jtfanclub If you want me to judge the from "pattern" viewpoint, i can say that: +18 any shape looks like just a strong clubber. Well I have played strong club (Carrot Club) for many years and loved it very much. But this is clearly "off pattern". The other openings are more pattern, I think I would have preferred to open 1NT with 15-17 and mix the 3suited with 12-14 bal. 1D 11-17 2suited seems ok - But perhaps your should lower 1C to 17 unbal, and make this 11-16. Maybe you need space to describe the hands, but its limited så it might work. The 2 openings are fairly broad, the would also be more stabile with 11-16. Kind regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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